Lower the ceiling? How high to build the ceiling wall?

  • Erstellt am 2025-09-07 23:50:24

hanghaus2023

2025-09-08 13:15:32
  • #1
I also had 5 spots in a suspended ceiling in the bathroom. After 20 years, I tore all that crap out and put a proper LED lamp on the ceiling. It is much brighter and better light. Power consumption reduced from 150 W to 12 watts. Still much brighter.
 

ypg

2025-09-08 14:10:27
  • #2

Doesn't the planned kitchen lighting, for example under the wall cabinets, suffice there? You are unnecessarily doubling the lighting with spots.

Are you focused on the arches that the light casts on the wall? That is really a matter of taste and probably cannot be argued otherwise.

Unfortunately, you don’t see something completely different not: Light from above is fundamentally bad light (in the living area), because it puts people in a bad light. In optics as a subject, professionally, but also attentively in life in general, light from above is the worst, because it casts ugly shadows on faces due to the forehead and nose and should be strictly avoided if one wants to present something positively. This applies at the dining area as well as on the sofa. It also applies to dimmed light, which you call indirect light.


.. which is actually called accent or decorative lighting.
Light sources at eye level are best suited.

For me, the simulation shows a lot of unrest. I also don’t see why one should spotlight a corner.
In addition, the staircase is far too bright.

It may be that the lighting simulation here behaves just like many poor self-made floor plans, where the draftsman, i.e. the layperson, just rationalizes everything.
But it may also be that you really support this and like it.
In that case, I would also detach it, then you are more flexible.
 

GeraldG

2025-09-08 14:36:43
  • #3

In the "plan" I have marked with the color of the spots whether they go into the concrete ceiling or, for example, into a wall cabinet.


They are of course dimmable, and I just wanted to try out which steps to best illuminate. I did that right at the beginning and haven’t adjusted it since.


It didn’t just “pop” and suddenly the simulation was there and unchangeable. I looked at how each beam angle behaves and how I wanted it, and then chose accordingly. I actually find something like this as “background light” pretty nice, which is why it is planned that way:


Not in the entrance area, I wanted relatively homey lighting there, so I placed panels with wide beam angles there.

Instead of those spots on the wall, of course an up-down light could also be placed on the wall, but I found (and still find) it difficult to get nice ones at good prices that can be adjusted in light intensity and color.
If someone wants to sketch in Paint, I can also insert that into the simulation; if it is better, I will of course do it that way.
 

nordanney

2025-09-08 14:41:18
  • #4

We used to have

hanging on the wall. The classics from Occhio are now available as replicas for about a hundred each (they don’t seem to be bad at all when I look at the photos).
 

ypg

2025-09-08 14:58:51
  • #5

Well, some creatives spent weeks on their design, but already took the wrong turn in the first 5 minutes, namely with the idea.

I really don’t find this in the photo contemporary, nor does it motivate me to pursue it further. Well then.

They used to have those too, until it was realized that they take away options for placement. I actually have them as well, distributed in the open living area at three meters height near the stair area. My small LED cubes still work there, but at a wall height of about 1.50 meters I can now do without them, or rather I would do without them now. I built 12 years ago. Back then it was mega mainstream.
 

GeraldG

2025-09-08 15:18:44
  • #6

So, to summarize:

    [*]no spotlights
    [*]no wall lamps

left are:

    [*]LED strips
    [*]ceiling lights
    [*]pendant lights
    [*]floor lamps

So, suspend the ceiling after all and use a shadow gap to illuminate the entire room indirectly? Where it should be bright, place pendant/ceiling lights, and add floor lamps as needed.
 

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