List of prefabricated house companies providers

  • Erstellt am 2024-02-12 11:21:22

saerox89

2024-02-12 17:04:19
  • #1


Thank you, Rübe1! How should I understand your statement: That none of the known prefabricated house providers build properly, or was it referring to the ones I mentioned? I am still quite early in choosing the providers and have only listed these names based on reports/experiences. Because they all seem to have fairly good wall constructions overall. Whether they really do, of course I will only see when there is a draft of the contract for work, you are right about that. Therefore, I am also looking for the list to better familiarize myself with the topic.
 

11ant

2024-02-12 18:34:10
  • #2

I’m glad to read that – but it still benefits you too little if you don’t take the next step (see Services: "The way to personal advice"). Have you already followed my reading tips from post #4?

You have already seen that I like to offer a wealth of useful information even "before the paywall." If I (after over forty years of market observation) saw even a spark of real benefit for readers in such a list, it would have been there long ago (and would certainly bring me a lot of interest as well). But I prefer to offer real benefit rather than the (disappointing) illusion of a benefit. Therefore, I gladly dispense with such a supposedly helpful tool, which unfortunately does not lead to a delicious cake in a layman’s oven.
Should I understand your reference to "the upper mid-range" as an answer to the question of which wage group your base of expectations can be set? – then the question remains open as to what degree of completion (shell or shell house, almost finished, move-in ready, etc.) fits your manual skills (and available time for self-performance).

A house is not a granola bar; studying the ingredient list for the wall construction won’t really get you anywhere here. And the usual comparison tests with criteria like fuel consumption, trunk volume, acceleration, turning circle, etc., are more for passing time than for gaining insight.

Providing consulting expertise always costs money, regardless of whether that takes place in show homes. And customer communication requires the same effort whether the boss "handles it where he’s already there" or delegates it to sales consultants employed specifically for this task. And catalogs themselves do not cost more money, but rather the (also sales-psychological) glossy finish and the lawyers behind them to keep the most flowery promises still non-binding and meaningless. In price-gouging optimization, there is surely a large price component in the big names everywhere. And I also see a more forceful integrity, not least among owner-managed medium-sized companies, as honorable business partners. Still, I mostly recommend limiting the regional idea to the Steiner group, since the "small" carpenters (certainly not all, but in my observation mostly) are at a level comparable to the nationally known prefab house builders in their infancy (which those had mostly outgrown back in the 70s).
In the end, I would not include any "small" providers on the carpenter side in the selection for setting the course but rather limit regionality to the Steiner group. If the result of the course setting tends toward a "wooden" house, then in a second round of finding providers you can also involve the "small" providers. That’s how I do it (if anyone still knows the advertising slogan "... recommended by the dentist to his family").
 

saerox89

2024-02-12 19:25:58
  • #3

That's me. I'm currently reading almost everything here that could be relevant. I now understand the "short" path of module A (my own assessment). What I don't understand yet: If the choice falls on a timber builder, don't they all always include the architect's service from performance phase 4 onwards?



Yes, absolutely. I thought I had already expressed that with a 750k budget (without land). That should (hopefully) be enough for the upper midfield. Don’t you think?



That’s how I had planned it too. We wanted a regional masonry builder and possibly something like Viebrockhaus in the selection.
 

11ant

2024-02-12 20:10:15
  • #4

I don’t know if you have really understood it. You spoke of service phases 1 to 3. I would advise against shortening that (that would only mean Module A), but merely to insert an "active pause" in the process: so Module A and then the resting phase with decision-making; after this at least service phase 3 should definitely follow ...

... however: if the decision-making “result” is to build more economically with a masonry-on-masonry method, then you would accordingly not only let the architect do service phase 3, but the entire Module B thereafter. That is why the decision-making is not only between continuing with timber or masonry, but simultaneously also between "Module A – resting phase – service phase 3" or "Module A – resting phase – full Module B." (Also) for this reason, resting phase and decision-making belong together (completed). If the process continues with a "prefabricated house" provider (panel manufacturer, whether timber frame or masonry), I agree with the "prefab house expert" that to avoid redundant work, service phase 4 should already be carried out by this provider. This variation was the main motivation to expand the house-building schedule with explanations of the "deviations." According to the reader dialogues, this was/is clearly the most eagerly awaited answer on how to deal with the differences in possible results of the decision-making.

That should be sufficient for a shell house for a significantly higher level, and “ready to move in” indeed for an upper mid-range, yes.

Viebrockhaus would then fit very well as, in my opinion, the ideal comparison opponent from the opposite building method shore Gussek Haus. Have we already talked about the “region”?
 

ypg

2024-02-12 22:11:32
  • #5

No, it doesn’t exist.
Who should create something like that? It’s not inherently bad what a building company does differently. Sometimes the materials differ only by a hair, so they suggest an "innovative construction method," all marketing.
What’s more important is that the KfW40 standard construction, for example, is executed cleanly – without defects or thermal bridges (and the like).

Look, for example here, it seems your gut feeling (or rubbish from the internet?) led to this decision?! That is basically not wrong.
Others tend towards solid construction – that too is basically not wrong. Because there is no right or wrong.

With a question mark behind it, I would say: yes, you are wrong if you only rely on the market leaders or the first 10 hits of Google ads and the house price on the internet.

Danwood has great architects and ideas. The Polish crews do good and fast work. They are not cheap if you consider that many things are fixed (e.g., windows under the eaves on the upper floor) and every single detail is a special feature, and not everything is possible.

I think developing a feel for something or “gathering experience,” even if only through self-research, creating your own tables, setting your own priorities, no one can take that away from you. Because the questions always come up anyway: why (is it done), how (is it done), and what for (is it done). Why doesn’t everyone do it the same way? What is better? Answer: nothing is better; no Porsche is better than a Smart or Passat, no electric better than diesel, because everyone has their target group, even if only regional.

I don’t really like this car comparison, but it is what it is: all cars can drive, one needs it for long distance, another for the city. Then it should look good to one, while another doesn’t care, one values comfort equipment or expansion packages, another the own configuration. One needs two seats, another needs seven. Then you have to weigh the price, the external circumstances decide for convertible, all-wheel-drive, or pitched roof with lots of photovoltaics, and in the end, you sign the purchase contract.



Smart decision, although I’m also a fan of type houses if you don’t have extraordinary demands. And if you do, you can live that out well in the interior finish.

What keeps you from simply addressing the architect regarding experience? He is your first professional and regional contact person – and with that, his entire network.

Timber frame construction can be done well by good carpenters – within a radius of 50km/100km, you will surely find one whose finished houses you can view live. I would also just take a look in building areas and see who has built there. If a new development area is being built, you meet the craftspeople on weekdays and the builders on weekends. These impressions and conversations are worth more than just sitting behind a PC all the time. Here you have builders who can’t even mentally sketch their rectangular plot with surroundings – not because they necessarily can’t draw, but because they never got out of their car during the 3 visits.
You can feel walls and impressions!
 

saerox89

2024-02-13 08:28:11
  • #6
So, another answer since my answer from yesterday was deleted. It's not so easy to stick to the rules here.



You are right, I think I hadn’t quite understood it properly yet. There is also a partner site of the expert you named that "mediates" architects. Can you trust something like that or how else do you get a good expert who regularly builds prefabricated houses? I am concerned that the architects there only do service phases 1-3, and that was an indication from you for architects who are rather not cost-faithful.



Sorry, I totally forgot to answer that! So it should be a turnkey house since I have little time and knowledge for finishing work. Thanks also for the other provider tip regarding Steinler. I hadn’t had them on my radar.

The region is Alzey, Rhineland-Palatinate
 

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