If you mean me: Of course, I do NOT want to discredit you!
Still, I often hear and read that people think Hartz4 recipients have to be carried along or co-financed, etc., and that’s also why I didn’t find the stigmatizing label for people as "Aufstocker" exactly appropriate; that much should be allowed to be said.
Do you really believe that I’m looking for tricks to convince you or anyone else of something?
I wouldn’t dare to make such an assessment, neither one way nor the other. What is certain is that there are scammers as well as honorable people; that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with money. I don’t care how they made their capital. I also don’t exclude "inheritance" because that’s nothing reprehensible either.
...I don’t know where I wrote that. Still, it would at least be possible for them, and the really "rich" people in this world partly do it or see their wealth as a social obligation to help the weaker ones.
Right.....FOR EVERYONE!
You can be sure that I certainly could not have meant you with the "rich"; I rather mean someone who is not active in the house-building forum and, fortunately, there are those who do not only see profit maximization as a goal but also recognize their social obligation.
And... I feel the same way as you, that I have no solution. I just observe an increasingly deep separation of parts of society that I already know from elsewhere. I don’t exclude myself from this, that’s why discussions like these might be useful so that everyone, including me, thinks about it and does not stubbornly cling to their own opinion.
I didn’t want to accuse you of anything, but here and there I’ve had very bad experiences. I am sensitive about that and obviously treated you unfairly. Sorry for that.
It is also far from me to negatively classify Aufstocker, etc. I simply assume that the majority works hard and is reluctant to depend on the social system. I also do not want to abolish or restrict the social system. Maybe make it more efficient. How, I don’t know either.
Few here are rich. But most are still in the upper half of society. If redistribution has to happen, then it inevitably has to come from us as well.
If other people have to financially contribute more to the social system, it is always easy to demand it. When you are affected yourself, you find it unfair. For social justice, indeed everyone can do something here. Quite realistically and with restrictions on oneself.
For example, giving up your own house, using the saved capital to buy 3-4 apartments in low-income areas and renting them out to socially weak people at cost price. This creates living space, does not result in financial loss, and supports families in need. Those who are not willing to do this are welcome to ask themselves why not.
I don’t mean all of your points. I am just on my phone and quoting is too inconvenient for me there.