KFW 70 funding still in 2015

Hello,

The emphasis is on almost, we have not quite finished in 2015 either.

That is of course correct. The exciting question is who will manage within the remaining period of 3 weeks to provide a preliminary site plan and complete the BA. All surveyors and architects I have spoken to are up to their hair roots in work.

And why before Christmas? I always thought the submission counted.

From my point of view, it only makes sense if the submission is confirmed by the building authorities. Otherwise, clever minds might come up with the idea to submit their BA on New Year’s Day – when the building authority is not working. That somehow does not seem logical to me; but I might be mistaken.

Edit: You could be right; explicit reference to a confirmation of the submission is not made:


**General: Which version of the Energy Saving Ordinance applies to construction projects?

The principle has remained the same as we know it from previous versions of the Energy Saving Ordinance:

[*]For construction projects that require a building permit or a building notification, the version of the Energy Saving Ordinance applies that was in effect on the day the builder submitted the building application or made the building notification.

[*]If a construction project does not require a permit but the building code requires that the builder notifies the municipality, the version of the Energy Saving Ordinance applies that was in effect on the day the builder notified the municipality of the project.

[*]However, if someone plans a construction project for which neither a permit nor a notification is required and no procedure must be followed, the decisive day is the one on which construction actually begins. The version of the Energy Saving Ordinance that is in effect on that day applies bindingly to the entire construction project.

[*]If a builder submits a building application or makes a building notification before the new Energy Saving Ordinance 2014 comes into effect, he can demand that his building be subject to the requirements of the new Energy Saving Ordinance 2014 if the building authority has not yet made a final decision on his building application or building notification.

**Source: Energy Saving Ordinance online


Rhenish greetings

Hello,


That is, of course, correct. The exciting question is who will manage to provide a preliminary site plan within the remaining period of 3 weeks and complete the building application. All surveyors and architects I have spoken to are up to their eyeballs in work.

We still have no property, design, or surveyor. So it's ambitious.

Edit: You might be right; there is no explicit reference to a confirmation of the submission:

Then one could possibly also talk to the caseworker and bring the building application on 04.01.

Then one could possibly also talk to the caseworker and bring the BA by 04.01.

The building authority is not the only agency where there are deadlines. If it is like in other authorities (e.g. tax office), then the mailbox is emptied early and possibly postmarked back to the previous day or the last day of emptying. At least at the tax office, there are apparently also mailboxes that flip over at midnight. But I don't think the building authority has such mailboxes.

So if between 31.12. and 03.01. no caseworker happens to be bored and empties the mailbox, 03.01.2016 with a lot of luck could still work. Submission on 04.01.16 to the caseworker would definitely be too late.

Hello,

we also have a house construction planned for 2016 at KFW70 standard.

From what I have read so far, the KFW70 standard does not change due to the changes on 01.01.2016, and a 2015 KFW70 house would still be a KFW70 house in 2016.

So one should still be able to regularly apply for funding until 31.03.2016 (probably at changed interest rates from 01.01.)?

Or where is the flaw in that thinking?

Thanks as well

I see it the same way. Why does the building application have to be submitted this year?
The regulation runs until "31.03.2016"!

That's how I see it too. Why does the building application have to be submitted this year? The regulation is valid until "31.03.2016"!

Because the Energy Saving Ordinance changes with the turn of the year - the KfW 70 standard will no longer exist; although the KfW subsidy for a KfW 70 efficiency house (building application still in 2015) only ends on 31.03.16.

Rhenish greetings

How can that be, construction expert? The standard is even maintained beyond March 31st, only the funding is discontinued. The Energy Saving Ordinance and KfW do not belong in the same category.

The KfW is a (state) bank that aligns its conditions with the Energy Saving Ordinance but creates its own standards (KfW-70, -55, etc.).

And I still have not understood your statement that KfW70 with gas was harder to achieve in 2016 than in 2015.

I think you always justified it by saying that the primary energy factor for electricity was lowered. But according to my lay understanding, that would only put gas at a disadvantage if the reference house is operated with a heat pump and gas now has to compete against the better-rated heat generator heat pump.

Is that so? I would appreciate some clarification.