Is it feasible to buy a second house with a mortgage on the first house?

  • Erstellt am 2025-03-07 05:39:01

Marqui88

2025-03-07 11:47:37
  • #1
Thank you very much for the numerous responses and suggestions.

Gift tax is just a topic we have to tackle.
A lawyer friend said that since we grant them the LEBENSlängliche Wohnrecht, this, including a risk, will be offset and thus the gift tax can certainly be justifiedly avoided. Another option would be to reduce the purchase price further if gift tax would be due anyway.
But that is still theory.

It would be no problem for us to increase the working hours and thus, of course, the salary accordingly before October. A temporary (maybe 6 months) full-time position for my wife would also be conceivable, which would ease the financial factor even more.
But October would actually be optimal, since we still have quite a few travel plans this summer.

And if none of this works out optimally, then we'll just leave it. We're doing great with our previous model and we don't want to change that "just like that" in the long term.
As a 5-year plan +/- okay. But open-ended? No thanks.
 

ypg

2025-03-07 12:06:08
  • #2
Nice that the flow is going in a positive direction again. However, one should not overdo it, because then one can quickly end up in a downward spiral. It may be that you currently manage with your income. Nevertheless, financially it does not look (rosy) as if you have money readily available for bigger leaps, i.e., also for investments that are far higher than an investment in a new PC system or even a car. There are often occasions in life when someone considers a seemingly "lucrative" offer, be it from an acquaintance, a colleague’s girlfriend, or as here, relatives. Often, one thinks one can better position one’s financial situation or later make a big profit through investment. However, most do not think about the fact that they have to anticipate financially. If you talk about an old house that belongs to you, on which there are still debts, and you additionally want to take out a mortgage, what if something needs to be repaired? How will that be paid for? I would, in your place, realistically consider your status where you currently stand and rather consolidate it with small steps than open a new construction site.
 

nordanney

2025-03-07 12:29:37
  • #3

Sure, you could already read the calculation. Depending on the approach, you save between 70 and 100k on the gift amount and reduce the tax.

Let's turn it around.
Generously old and new rate about €1,500.
You need about €3,500 net income per month (including child benefit) in order to be considered capable of servicing the capital.
If you can generate such income, you can also finance 250k. Only from a bank's perspective. It does not take into account whether your living expenses fit this or whether the financing is healthy for you (i.e., the monthly burden).
 

Marqui88

2025-03-07 13:02:26
  • #4

I agree with you. We definitely need to think this through.
I have certain principles that I do not want to break.
For example, I have a reserve of about 50k as savings for the house and additionally 20k for vacations etc. However, such things disappear faster these days than you can blink.
But it should last us at least 3 more years until the little one is in school and I am better positioned professionally again.

Both cars are now 4 and 6 years old respectively. So repairs may be needed but no new purchase in the next 5-10 years.

Either both parties work part-time or not! I will not break this principle. We are simply doing too well as it is.



That is absolutely doable for us. So, both from the bank’s point of view and from our actual lifestyle.

Thank you.
 

tomtom79

2025-03-07 15:01:38
  • #5
Every few weeks, a post comes along that is so far from reality that it can only be a troll.
 

Marqui88

2025-03-07 15:06:58
  • #6
Which post are you referring to?
 

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