Is green space convertible to building land?

Yvonne, Dirk may be a professional, and yet you are right. This is exactly what is happening here, where I live. The building area is de facto sold. One or two remaining items left. The city has acquired a field again directly next to an older building area. Why do you think? Not to harvest wheat there. The farmer got good money for his field. Karsten

Unfortunately, this is complete nonsense again, because if the F-plan of the superior (!) planning authority (!) is not available (or at least not changed in parallel suitably to the development plan), no municipality sells even a single square meter of building land – exceptions are privileged developments in the outer area such as agricultural buildings, which then require several hundred meters distance from existing residential buildings, as usually the Immission Control Act applies.

In your case, the planning issue is therefore long settled, hence there is no longer any speculation framework present, which you however see in the case of the original poster. I am referring to your alleged "not for 4€", remember?

I really no longer want to stand in the way of your stupidity; from now on you can shamelessly pat each other on the shoulder for your dangerous half-knowledge without me disturbing you.

All the best! Dirk Grafe

I don’t understand you, Dirk. Who is or was talking about sale? The city bought the field. Period. The city council, not some higher superordinate authority, changes the F plan. Surely in agreement with the district, but it is the master of the procedure. After changing the F plan, the city council also has the development plan drawn up or, more likely, looks for a development company again, who does this in agreement with them, it then gets approved, bam, the plots are there. Now the civil engineering just has to do what’s necessary, and they are not only virtual, but real. Karsten

I don’t understand you, Dirk.

That is correct so far, but irrelevant in the future. I have asked the admin to close my account.

It is happening right here, where I live.

... that a thirty-year-old teacher bought a piece of land from an old peasant because the area had simply become too big for him, the teacher then asked the municipality for a change in the land use plan and the establishment of a development plan, rented an excavator, laid supply and disposal lines, paved the road, and is now selling the last two plots?

Of course, arable land is converted into building land somewhere in Germany every day, but the initial question was:

would it then be possible to have the plot developed at one's own expense and build a house there?

And that is simply impossible for a teacher who asked this question in a public forum.

Please read carefully. Saarschwabe asks. He does not say in a single word that he is a thirty-year-old teacher. I do not know who or what he is. I politely tell him, not entirely impossible, what he thinks, but very unlikely, unless he himself is a farmer. Otherwise, even if it is possible, planning and development costs would already blow the budget of ordinary people. And a real investor probably wouldn’t ask something like this here. Yvonne responds similarly.

Then I say, as a pure investment, so to speak as a speculative object, the field looks interesting judging by the aerial photo. One could buy it and let things develop. Maybe the thing will become interesting someday for a developer or the municipality. This would depend on intuition, local knowledge, and possibly connections. I also add that the selling farmer certainly knows where the field is...

No one told Saarschwabe to buy, that you can surely build your villa on it in 2018 or 2019.

Karsten

Basically.... but when it comes to Saarschwabe I say: never!

My father once auctioned off a piece of birch forest... about 30 years ago or so. On the left and right are holiday homes converted into single-family houses back then (turning a 35sqm holiday home à la KGV into a villa of the highest class). The spaces in between may have been built on in the meantime.
However, our forest plot is located at a fork, surrounded by a construction area by now, but not the fork itself. That will probably stay that way, as there is only horse pasture and trees.
That’s the topic of speculation. I don’t think I will live to see the rezoning anymore [emoji23][emoji2]

Regards, Yvonne