Is building a house feasible? We are totally uncertain...

  • Erstellt am 2013-04-02 11:47:17

michael0815

2013-04-02 13:27:22
  • #1
That wasn’t what I meant either. I think it’s good to know the (hard) facts! However, these are all points that don’t exactly strengthen my decision that we can manage this within this framework. I’m seriously considering choosing Alternative 2, saving for 20 years, and then basically having the 350,000 in cash...
 

Bauexperte

2013-04-02 13:33:03
  • #2
Hello Michael,

You are still at the very beginning and already discouraged? Yet, from what I can tell, you haven’t even properly read through this forum here


This forum and any other do not replace a personal conversation!

First of all, find an independent financing broker and discuss your current situation with him. For this, you don’t need an offer from a provider, just bring some documents about your personal circumstances. AFTER this conversation, you will already know how much money you can put in to realize your house project. The comfortable thing is, you decide how much you want to invest.

Then go to model home neighborhoods and take a look around; in my opinion, your wishes/requirements probably don’t yet match your budget or the amount you are willing to invest. Most likely, you will also have no idea yet what a photovoltaic system costs or a double garage etc. – that will all become clearer soon after the first offers.

At the same time, invest time and read deeper into this forum; the knowledge gathered here will help you avoid one or the other disappointment! Afterwards, you will also know whether you want to build a prefabricated or a solid house.

Regarding the plot, check the website of the respective municipality/city where you can imagine living. Municipal land prices are based – unlike the free market – on the valid land value references, and you also save the broker fees.

Then go to a new development area in your surroundings – preferably on a weekend – and talk to the builders there. They will gladly provide detailed information if none of their partners are on site. This way you get very good information.

Rhenish regards
 

Der Da

2013-04-02 13:36:40
  • #3
Nobody said otherwise. Of course you can build a little house, just probably not the way you imagine it now. And that is due to the lack of equity. Let’s assume you have total capital of 350,000, regardless of how it is split up. You pay just under 90,000 for the plot, 230,000 for the house (turnkey 140 sqm approx), 30,000 for incidental building costs. Boom, the money is gone. What you don’t have now: a driveway, a garage, a terrace, a new kitchen, furniture, lamps, lawn, a garden fence, outdoor lamps, paved driveway, entrance steps, splash protection around the house. Incidental building costs and the plot are FIXED. So you can either build smaller, or forego KfW funding, which in my opinion means giving up on living comfort, and you can contribute your own work. Just don’t underestimate your own work. We only wallpapered and laid floors. That would have cost us about 15,000 to 19,000 € more at our prefab house provider. We have now spent 11,000 € for that and invested almost 50 man-days. The saving potential is therefore not as high as you might think. Sure, we could have laid laminate for 15 €, and tiles at 10 €/sqm. But you don’t want that. Our tiles cost 30 €/sqm, the tiler an additional 35 €/sqm. The cork parquet was 20 €/sqm and the living room parquet 40 €/sqm. If you go to a specialist store, you’ll see that this is the lower end of the price range. Wallpapering materials cost us over 1,000 € because it’s 65 rolls of wallpaper and about 10 buckets of paint. The house is about 600 sqm in area. Plus brushes, ladders, tools, and so on… you’ll be amazed at what else comes along. We saved about 7,000 €. We could still have screwed the plasterboards ourselves and done the taping ourselves. Saving potential approx. 8,000 €. Time effort almost 3 weeks full-time with two people. We have acquaintances who sacrificed an entire year’s vacation for this work. You can’t really do much more yourself in a prefab house, unless you can do plumbing and electrical work yourself. You can save on stairs and doors as well, but in my opinion, you have too much risk and trouble to make it worth saving 2,000 € in the end on such an amount. Personally, I would never wallpaper myself again… the first week was amusing and felt good to do something yourself, but by the second week you are done with it… can’t stand another drop of glue or smell of paint.
 

michael0815

2013-04-02 13:37:42
  • #4
Where can you find an independent financial broker? I have already asked around in my circle of acquaintances because I do not want to go to a bank. The topic of "independent" is important to me because otherwise I always feel like I am being ripped off.

As for feeling discouraged... yes, somewhat. Because I don't know, if you have someone who has studied and then cannot afford a nice little house without strangling themselves, what else could have been done differently in youth? That is actually the main point that discourages me at the moment... I have completed my studies with flying colors and within the standard period of study. And yet I (we) now stand here having to practice modesty or limit ourselves. That definitely discourages me...
 

Der Da

2013-04-02 13:41:17
  • #5
In 20 years you won’t get a house for €350,000 — keyword inflation and price increases. In the DM days, you could build a villa for 500,000 DM; if you convert that into € today, which you really shouldn’t do, you can sometimes only get a building plot with a caravan for €250,000 ;9
 

michael0815

2013-04-02 13:42:49
  • #6


that doesn't make it any better now... :-(
 

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