Is a moisture barrier necessary under floating cork?

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-24 21:38:57

Hausbaer

2021-04-25 21:53:36
  • #1
Regarding sliding / "wearing off," there is also the option of smoothing the screed (at least that was done in our case).
 

KlaRa

2021-04-26 13:54:42
  • #2
Hello questioner.
Regarding the PE foil under floating floors made of wood, cork or wood-based materials, the following:
The PE foil is always required.
In new buildings (new screeds), usually only one single residual moisture measurement is carried out. For, say, 120m² this is considered sufficient, but still little when you relate the total area to the 100cm² that the testing authority requires.
There always remains a certain residual risk (accepted by the state of the art) regarding possible multi-thicknesses of the screed or measurement errors (due to the measuring inaccuracy of the CM device).
Also in old buildings a PE foil is necessary because you cannot be 100% sure that the cement screed (this applies only to this) is sufficiently dry. This is simply because cement screeds absorb moisture depending on the room air (here: > 70%), so they can become damp again.
And thirdly, as already noted in one of the posts, a PE foil also acts as a sliding layer. Floating floor coverings always move. Whether thermally induced or by the absorption of (air) moisture!
If you hinder the expansion behavior of the floor covering, the covering surface may soon look like these two attached pictures.
Here too, a covering with cork backing was applied to the actually still unlevelled screed.
My notes regarding the necessary remediation (remove covering, lay PE foil double and lay covering again) were ignored by the executing company. Soon it will become apparent what will happen when operating the underfloor heating. However, I already know ....
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Short answer to your question: Yes, install PE foil approx. 0.15mm single layer!
Regards: KlaRa

 

Hausbaer

2021-04-26 18:14:04
  • #3


Thank you for your assessment. But what do you say about this:

The floor installer applied a gypsum-based leveling compound. I am currently a little afraid that mold will form under the foil (which lies above the leveling compound), since gypsum is said to mold very quickly.
 

Hausbaer

2021-04-26 21:13:54
  • #4
Whereas this is a mistake, pure gypsum does not mold as it is purely mineral.
 

KlaRa

2021-04-26 21:27:15
  • #5
@ Hausbaer: Whoever puts the topic of "mold fungi" in the foreground usually has no other "killer argument". The fact is that the PE foil belongs to every floating installation of wood/wood-based materials as well as cork floors. If a gypsum leveling compound was used here, then please see the PE foil only as a sliding layer for the future floor covering. If later the situation occurs that, for whatever reasons, moisture rises from behind, causing the screed to release its excess residual moisture "upwards" (towards the center of the room), then you will undoubtedly notice this by other signs before any fungal spore can settle: it will crunch with every step you take. It crunches because the gypsum-based leveling compound has detached from the screed surface and crumbled. No, this is not a joke or an unfounded claim, but corresponds to my practical experience. It looks exactly like in the attached photo. So do not be misled by hints that miss the point. You asked here in this forum, you have received at least one usable answer, and now you must decide alone which path you will take solely responsible. Regards and good luck with your decision: KlaRa
 

schubert79

2021-04-27 06:46:53
  • #6
Conclusion: Definitely use a slide! Removing the base later is simply a pain!
 

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