How to move from KfW55 to KfW40+?

  • Erstellt am 2015-12-16 13:50:18

dsin8788

2015-12-17 11:22:44
  • #1
According to the new funding, there is a 15% repayment grant for Kfw 40+, or am I wrong?
 

Baufie

2015-12-17 11:51:17
  • #2


Where can I read that, because I can't find anything...
 

Grym

2015-12-17 11:54:42
  • #3
The KFW calculation does not care whether it is a brick with lambda 0.07 or aerated concrete with lambda 0.07. However, regarding heat storage capacity, I have a different opinion. The PP 1.6-0.25 is, in my opinion, the only aerated concrete block with lambda 0.07 and it has a bulk density of 250 kg per m3. The corresponding brick with lambda 0.07 and perlite filling has a bulk density of 600 kg/m3. For lambda 0.08 there is the PP 2-0.35 with 350 kg/m3 and there are unfilled bricks from Freital with a bulk density of 700 kg/m3. As far as I know, the airtightness is achieved by the interior plaster? Why should a glued aerated concrete block be better than a glued brick? Not that I generally have anything against aerated concrete, great building material. But regarding your statement on heat storage capacity, I think bricks are better.

To get from a U-value of 0.20 to 0.16, for example, in monolithic construction you have to go from lambda 0.08 and wall thickness 42.5 to 0.07 and 49.0. For KS+ETICS you simply have to increase ETICS thickness from 160mm to 200mm.

The surcharge for KS+ETICS is about 3-5 EUR per sqm. The surcharge for monolithic construction alone is already 64 EUR per m2 according to the price list, minus a little discount. The wall thickness without plaster goes from 33.5 to 37.5 (+4cm) for KS+ETICS, but for monolithic construction from 42.5 to 49.0 (+6.5cm).

The more extreme the requirements, the more worthwhile ETICS or timber construction becomes.



A passive house with 36.5 cm is not possible. The passive house by definition has a U-value below 0.15 for all exterior walls. With lambda 0.07 and 36.5 cm you can at best reach 0.18.
 

Bauexperte

2015-12-17 12:26:06
  • #4
Hello,


Yes, I should not have shortened it like that, my mistake, I should have checked my post again; sorry.

Therefore, here are the correct values. For a PH (according to my table) you need:

24 cm aerated concrete 0.12 W/(mK) + 14 cm core insulation 0.032 W/mK + facing bricks - for a double-shell wall construction: U-value of 0.13 W/m²K, total wall construction* thickness: 51.5 cm

or

49 cm aerated concrete 0.07 W/(mK) plus exterior plaster in monolithic construction: U-value of 0.14 W/m²K, total wall construction* thickness: 51.5 cm

Edit:

*air gap for facing bricks supplemented like interior plaster (both wall constructions)


Rhenish regards
 

MarcWen

2015-12-17 13:08:31
  • #5


On the internet (KfW homepage) or here in the forum in the corresponding sub-section.
 

Bieber0815

2015-12-17 16:26:34
  • #6
38 cm + facing bricks.
 

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