Home financing canceled despite payments, house now double the value

  • Erstellt am 2022-01-23 20:03:21

neubauer

2022-01-25 23:10:48
  • #1
There are so many questions now, I will try to answer most of them:


Yes, the house is solely in her name.


They do occasionally help out with a few euros, but my acquaintance does not want to burden both parents, who are about 85 years old, with this as they are partly in need of care and wouldn’t really understand it properly anyway.



She no longer really has a main bank. Until about 2 years ago, she was with a Sparkasse for about 30 years at her old place of residence 700 km away, and then switched to the DKB.
She has had her company account with the Commerzbank for about 6-7 years, but whether that can be called a main bank, no idea!?



No, that never happened; she always made sure everything was paid.



Correct, it originally cost €200,000. With the DSL Bank she has now paid interest for 10 years and simultaneously contributed a bit to a building savings contract. However, the building savings contract will probably only mature in a few years. But the €175,000-180,000 could be roughly right.


The DSL Bank. There are no children living in the household anymore. The current income is about €1500-2500 per month. It fluctuates since she has been self-employed for about 9 years.



The term would end in 1-2 years; she just wanted to save a little and take advantage of the lower interest rates. She is currently paying 3.5%. But don’t hold me to that; I am not a banker.



When she bought and financed the house back then, she was still employed. Shortly thereafter, she became self-employed. Her banker advised her accordingly and said he would look at the numbers and forward them to the bank if they fit. But apparently, he did not do that.
She probably wouldn’t have done it if it didn’t fit. Her intention was only to reduce the monthly burden a bit.



If there are other options, then gladly.



Sorry, but that is complete nonsense. I also have to work on the side and still take the time to help her where I can, but I was also a bit overwhelmed by the many answers, so responding takes a bit.
And no, I have nothing to do with this company.



No, that is not the case, and as already mentioned above, everything was always paid; therefore, the bank can normally not care where the money comes from.

The above-mentioned banker who arranged the financing back then and is now also supposed to do the extension at better conditions offered the same principle as the one from Hausa.... but at worse conditions. It already starts with the appraisal.

Hausa.... estimated the property at about €450,000, and he estimated the property at about €370,000, which makes a difference of about €70,000, which is a lot of money.
 

WilderSueden

2022-01-25 23:21:04
  • #2

So that is an interest-only loan and not a normal annuity with repayment?
 

Tassimat

2022-01-26 02:10:29
  • #3
So my first step would be to inquire at Commerzbank, and then at the financing broker.

How old is the lady and how high will the pension be?


Do you have details here?
Is it just about bridging the time until the allocation of the building saver, or should it be terminated and a new financing started now? How much money is involved?
 

kati1337

2022-01-26 09:04:31
  • #4


I was also wondering how to understand the annuity in this case.

By the way, first of all: sorry for assuming the thread was a fake. You often see that in forums, where the OP only makes one post and never appears again. But in your case, that apparently wasn’t so.

What immediately stands out are the two factors:
- low and uncertain household income, only 1 debtor: that’s always bad for the bank. Self-employed people have a hard time anyway. Self-employed with fluctuating income of just 2–2.5k are not exactly their favorite borrowers. With something like that, you still have better chances at a local bank if the personal chemistry fits, than at DKB, ING and the like. They have great interest rates but also many algorithms. If you fail their criteria in any way, you’re just out and done.
- the low repaid amount: With about €20,000 repayment in 10 years and 3.5% interest, I get a monthly rate of roughly €725. And most of that is interest. That’s probably the problem the bank sees: she pays her monthly amount regularly, but with that interest and repayment she doesn’t get anywhere. At that speed, she wouldn’t have paid off the house in 50 years. That’s probably the problem the bank sees. She would actually have to manage a somewhat higher rate and thereby speed up repayment, so that this makes sense.

My tip would be to go to regional banks, make an appointment in person, and talk to a human being there and explain the situation. The risk for the bank is manageable if the property is really worth that much nowadays as proven. I would use that as my trump card.
That also worked for us for our house financing when we were rejected by many online applications. We fell through the cracks because my husband didn’t have a permanent residence permit yet back then. At the local bank, face to face with the advisor, it wasn’t such a big deal anymore.
 

Hyponex

2022-01-26 10:55:59
  • #5
Good morning,

so the way this whole thing reads, then the banks where "system decision" is used as a criterion will fail everywhere.

a local Sparkasse / Volksbank would probably be a good alternative here.

if the income that can be proven is 1500-2000€ + if the value is between 350-400 TEUR. and if the home savings contract is used as a special payment for the DSL, and in the end only 180,000€ has to be financed, then it would be in the "feasible" range. As long as there is nothing negative in the Schufa
 

Osnabruecker

2022-01-26 11:54:37
  • #6
It is not easy to figure out something like this for your girlfriend.
For example, is the income of 1.5-2.5k already net? Have the health insurance contributions been deducted? Is a car available or are the costs included in the self-employment?

Paying off a house with the salary and building reserves is not possible. In the last 10 years, 20k has been paid off.
What if the heating breaks down tomorrow? Another 10 years of repayment are wasted.

If no significant improvement is in sight, why hold on to the house?
 

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