toimabo
2019-01-26 00:41:08
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Thank you already for your suggestions!
I am a fan of cork, I had it in my childhood room.
My "compensation" for not getting parquet would be the continuous installation and suitability for wet rooms (if glued) with vinyl.
However, I just noticed that there is also cork available for gluing, which would also offer these advantages.
The processing seems at first glance even more complex than gluing vinyl, and the designs are also quite limited then.
I would, for example, really like the WICANDERS CORK WOOD ESSENCE OAK RUSTIC PRIME.
But it seems to be only available for floating installation.
But I will also check again at the specialist retailer.
Exactly, the bottom piece can be rotated.
Yes, that is the wall where the stairs are said to have been before – at least according to the real estate agent.
Due to the symmetrical structure, the two walls are exactly the same length (4.25m).
The wall you suggest has only 3m up to the breakthrough – I find the idea quite charming at the moment, but that really can’t fit, can it?
By the way, you bring up a point with the load-bearing wall. According to the building description, the load-bearing walls are made of "8-10 cm Termocrete concrete", non-load-bearing walls of "7cm Termocrete concrete". If I look at the floor plan now (here is the original one missing the conservatory, which at least is reasonably dimensioned), that would mean only the wall to the vestibule and guest WC are non-load-bearing. Can that be?

Anyway, your staircase suggestion is really stimulating some thoughts. We plan to create a breakthrough to the kitchen later since we like open spaces. In our current apartment, the only rooms with doors are guest room, bedroom, and bathroom.
Here the flooring question would come into play again. With a floating installation, I could quite easily take up the areas again and reuse them. Glued planks in the kitchen/hall area I would have to tear out and buy new ones.
Since the resulting space would be good for the dining table and we still have the huge conservatory, it would feel like quite a waste of space to keep the dining room. If the staircase is located there (which I actually find very nice for open spaces), I can’t separate the room again either.
But if the stairs were on the other wall, you could perfectly use the other half of the room as a study or guest room.
I roughly drew it in. Orange are new walls and the staircase, yellow are disappearing walls and cabinets.
If the staircase in the living area ever bothers anyone, alternatively one could even open the door under the stairs again, completely close the wall to the living room, and thus assign the stairs and access to the study to the hallway.

What I see as difficult again is the exit to the attic.
Bottom left in white is the exit as it currently is, blue would be the planned variant on the wall to the bedroom, orange your suggestion on the wall to the hallway.
The plan is to create two rooms upstairs. If necessary, two children's rooms; otherwise one child's room and a guest or workroom. The wall actually has to be set where the orange line is drawn; otherwise, the room will be too small. With the orange staircase exit, I would have no space left for access. Due to the longitudinal orientation, I would also waste a lot of space in the area with standing height.
The upper wall already exists; the upper third is the currently unfinished part.
So I actually like the variant because of the higher variability on the ground floor, but due to the problems mentioned, I currently don't think it is feasible. Maybe I'm just making a mistake.
The entire neighborhood consists of identical houses of this type. Many of them have one or more dormers; one even has a complete elevation of about 80% of the roof surface. So yes, that is definitely allowed and planned for a later point in time.
Our thought process is similar; we would allocate part to the bedroom/wardrobe and part to the bathroom.
But since the baby is supposed to sleep there first until the attic is finished, the child can handle the stairs, and we have saved some money again, it will probably take a few years. So for now, the variant with the drywall partition.
I actually have a picture of almost everything; is there something specific you want?

Flooring, take cork, sealed because of cat vomit. So foot-warm as if it were FHZ and also slightly soft when walking.
I am a fan of cork, I had it in my childhood room.
My "compensation" for not getting parquet would be the continuous installation and suitability for wet rooms (if glued) with vinyl.
However, I just noticed that there is also cork available for gluing, which would also offer these advantages.
The processing seems at first glance even more complex than gluing vinyl, and the designs are also quite limited then.
I would, for example, really like the WICANDERS CORK WOOD ESSENCE OAK RUSTIC PRIME.
But it seems to be only available for floating installation.
But I will also check again at the specialist retailer.
Its winding is on the other side. But probably the bottom piece can be flexibly designed?
Exactly, the bottom piece can be rotated.
Are you sure it was there and not along the load-bearing wall, so in the middle of the house?
In my opinion, it would fit better there – it doesn’t block any window there and is close to the room door.
You would have a bit more privacy later with a room divider to the living room/sofa when the children are older.
Yes, that is the wall where the stairs are said to have been before – at least according to the real estate agent.
Due to the symmetrical structure, the two walls are exactly the same length (4.25m).
The wall you suggest has only 3m up to the breakthrough – I find the idea quite charming at the moment, but that really can’t fit, can it?
By the way, you bring up a point with the load-bearing wall. According to the building description, the load-bearing walls are made of "8-10 cm Termocrete concrete", non-load-bearing walls of "7cm Termocrete concrete". If I look at the floor plan now (here is the original one missing the conservatory, which at least is reasonably dimensioned), that would mean only the wall to the vestibule and guest WC are non-load-bearing. Can that be?
Anyway, your staircase suggestion is really stimulating some thoughts. We plan to create a breakthrough to the kitchen later since we like open spaces. In our current apartment, the only rooms with doors are guest room, bedroom, and bathroom.
Here the flooring question would come into play again. With a floating installation, I could quite easily take up the areas again and reuse them. Glued planks in the kitchen/hall area I would have to tear out and buy new ones.
Since the resulting space would be good for the dining table and we still have the huge conservatory, it would feel like quite a waste of space to keep the dining room. If the staircase is located there (which I actually find very nice for open spaces), I can’t separate the room again either.
But if the stairs were on the other wall, you could perfectly use the other half of the room as a study or guest room.
I roughly drew it in. Orange are new walls and the staircase, yellow are disappearing walls and cabinets.
If the staircase in the living area ever bothers anyone, alternatively one could even open the door under the stairs again, completely close the wall to the living room, and thus assign the stairs and access to the study to the hallway.
What I see as difficult again is the exit to the attic.
Bottom left in white is the exit as it currently is, blue would be the planned variant on the wall to the bedroom, orange your suggestion on the wall to the hallway.
The plan is to create two rooms upstairs. If necessary, two children's rooms; otherwise one child's room and a guest or workroom. The wall actually has to be set where the orange line is drawn; otherwise, the room will be too small. With the orange staircase exit, I would have no space left for access. Due to the longitudinal orientation, I would also waste a lot of space in the area with standing height.
The upper wall already exists; the upper third is the currently unfinished part.
So I actually like the variant because of the higher variability on the ground floor, but due to the problems mentioned, I currently don't think it is feasible. Maybe I'm just making a mistake.
Regarding the attic: it looks very bright up there. For an adequate ceiling height, dormers could be installed later if the budget allows?! What does the development plan say about that? Or is it possible to tell from the surrounding buildings whether this is permitted?
The entire neighborhood consists of identical houses of this type. Many of them have one or more dormers; one even has a complete elevation of about 80% of the roof surface. So yes, that is definitely allowed and planned for a later point in time.
I would forgo a dressing room and design this in the current stair room instead. There would be enough freedom of movement there as well as enough space for wardrobes, etc.
Our thought process is similar; we would allocate part to the bedroom/wardrobe and part to the bathroom.
But since the baby is supposed to sleep there first until the attic is finished, the child can handle the stairs, and we have saved some money again, it will probably take a few years. So for now, the variant with the drywall partition.
Do you have photos of the outdoor area?
I actually have a picture of almost everything; is there something specific you want?