Floor plan, ideas for spatial separation within the kitchen

  • Erstellt am 2013-09-19 10:44:51

backbone23

2013-09-19 12:46:11
  • #1
With 180 sqm of living space, I find 13 sqm for the children simply too small. And when the children get older, the "playroom" in the attic doesn't help either. In addition, roof slopes, the gables, and the 45-degree angles with the door reduce usable space.

€240,000 for everything excluding the land. Read up on the forum here about construction costs! What is the architect thinking?
 

Bauexperte

2013-09-19 12:52:26
  • #2
Hello,


I would sign that blindly .. !

I really don’t understand the repeated discussions about children's rooms > 11.00/12.00 sqm either; above this size they quickly grow into small dance halls. Do parents (and future parents) really believe that what intensely interests their children during their teenage years takes place under the parental roof? I would advise reflecting back on your own youth.

Rhineland greetings
 

Musketier

2013-09-19 13:08:56
  • #3
The construction expert will surely write something about the 240T€. Overall, you can probably count on almost 100T€ for that.

Regarding the floor plan itself: My parents have two 45° corners in their apartment. I find it quite harmonious to a limited extent. But the usable space is reduced because of that. The routing of the pipes from the bathrooms and the utility room on the upper floor should be checked. Do you have a home office so that you need 2 workrooms?

However, I can imagine that the floor plan will cease to be worth discussing once a real amount for the house is on paper.
 

Bauexperte

2013-09-19 13:54:24
  • #4
Hello Musketier,


If the OP comments on his equipment wishes, I will be happy to do so.

Rhenish greetings
 

Musketier

2013-09-19 14:05:22
  • #5




@ Bauexperte Do you need more information besides knowing almost 180m², 3 gables, 3 bathrooms, ancillary construction costs, carport, outdoor facilities to say that €240K won’t be enough? Now you’re disappointing me. We’re already paying almost €240K.
 

GTSport1982

2013-09-19 14:26:37
  • #6
Hi guys!

My questions here were more about revising the floor plan, but since the questions regarding the cost breakdown are increasing, I want to shed some light on it briefly.

Here is our first cost breakdown:

Construction costs:


    [*]Residential building 760 cbm x €265.00 = €201,400.00
    [*]Special components = €3,600.00
    [*]Carport = €8,000.00


Outdoor facilities:


    [*]Garden and paths = €5,000.00
    [*]Connections = €6,000.00


Additional costs:


    [*]Architect and engineering services = €12,000.00
    [*]Authorities and administrative costs = €2,000.00
    [*]Financing costs = €1,000.00
    [*]Other additional costs = €1,500.00


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So far, I have no idea whether there is already a catch somewhere here, but if you tell me now that a 180 sqm house cannot be realized within a budget of up to €250,000.00, we will have to reduce the floor area. Our concern was primarily the room planning first and then the budgeting. Personally, 140 sqm would also be enough for me, as long as we can fit in the rooms we want. The problem is that, for professional reasons, we need two workrooms, one on the ground floor and one on the upper floor. Additionally, we have favored the extra southern expansion with an additional gable to have the living and dining area nicely bright and also to create a nice protected southwest terrace from it.

In terms of fittings, it should be standard, so nothing bad but also nothing exaggerated. Apart from the wallpapering work, we want to build completely turnkey with the only special feature being that the tiles should look like wood. That will probably mean a not insignificant extra charge.

Regards,

GTSport1982
 

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