Floor plan "House for in-between" for 2-3.5 persons

  • Erstellt am 2024-10-23 21:57:21

czumplanen

2024-10-23 21:57:21
  • #1
Best regards to the forum,

I want to build a 100-110sqm house with a children's room and a smaller room that can at least serve as an emergency children's room for a few more years. I like big windows, I will spend a lot of time in the living room due to my job, so I don’t want to save space there. Am I overlooking something major as a layperson or are my ideas realistic?

Context of my situation:

I have a plot of land where building may be possible in 2026-2027, but so far there is no guarantee that it will ever happen.

However, since I want to move out of my parents’ house (or actually from my partner’s apartment for a few months now) and I don’t think building will become much cheaper, I would now like to first buy and build on a roughly 1000sqm plot where a development plan already exists. This will not be my dream house; there is always a compromise somewhere, and finding it currently gives me a headache.

My options would now be:

    [*]Stay put for 3 more years and then maybe be disappointed that I might not be allowed to build on my dream plot even then
    [*]Build a house the size of an apartment (around 80sqm) and then be annoyed about the size when children come before I’m allowed to build my bigger dream house
    [*]Build a 100-110sqm house that is nice to live in but will become too small by the second child at the latest
    [*]Go all in and build my dream house now on a plot that isn’t my dream plot (location, layout, size)

No matter what I do, the future may show me in each case that I made a mistake looking back—which is why I’m currently leaning toward option 3 as a middle ground. I would then like to finance the costs of my dream house by selling the temporary house, but to sell it, it has to be something that others can make use of.

I didn’t really like the proposed floor plan from the builder, so I came up with my own layout which, after 15 hours of pushing and pulling, I now find quite okay. The professionals among you will laugh that I’m using home.by.me, but if you have absolutely no idea, it’s incredibly helpful to fill rooms with furniture in 3D to get a first impression of room sizes. The furniture itself isn’t meant to be exactly like that—I was just concerned about the dimensions, like how far a cabinet projects into the hallway.

Driveway and carport should be roughly like this; everything else on the plot, including the lovingly placed swing, serves me only as a reference for the size of the remaining plot, and the terrace is just roughly positioned. I naively set the walls to 170mm inside and outside out of ignorance.

About the rooms:

The hallway might be 20cm narrower at the expense of a narrower house width or slightly larger children's rooms, but that shouldn’t make a huge difference now.

Bathroom 1 is relatively small compared to the bathroom in my parents’ house but I think it has everything you need. The shower is a bit larger than my current 80x80 at 90x90, allowing about 100cm passage between sink and shower. It’s not huge but I think it works. This requires the door to open into the hallway.

Bathroom 2 is tiny but exactly the size of our current guest toilet.

The utility room has everything you need with 5.7sqm if I haven’t forgotten anything; I read a minimum size of 6sqm on the internet.

The bedroom is rather minimum size; one more wardrobe would definitely not hurt, maybe I’ll put taller cabinets to the left and right of the TV.

I have absolutely no sense of scale for the kitchen. Are kitchen modules standardized in width or do you just have the walls as you have them and build the kitchen accordingly? If I do have to enlarge Bathroom 1, I would most likely take space from the kitchen for that.

For the living room, I don’t know how to combine a nice view of the plot, a TV and a fireplace all in one glance. But I find these corner windows very cool (if the statics allow it) and you can always rearrange somehow. It’s important to me not to regret later having too little space or windows in the wrong place. I quite like the recessed wall to the kitchen to have at least some separation between kitchen and living room despite an open kitchen, especially if there is stuff lying around.

Orientation: The upper edge of the draft points northeast-east

Attached is the list; I have deleted what has already been answered or does not apply:

Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000sqm
Building window, building line and limit: Corner plot, the only neighbor is 9 meters behind the plot boundary in the direction of the carport
Number of parking spaces: Probably 2 in a row and whichever car is parked in front is driven
Number of floors: 1
Roof type: No preference
Style: No preference

Client requirements
Basement: No basement
Open kitchen so the living room appears larger
Carport: Yes

House design
Planner: Do-it-yourself
Personal price limit for the house: €275,000 for 106sqm, without kitchen, without furniture, without carport, without terrace, without hedge (represented as a fence in the design)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump

Why did the design turn out the way it did?
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it: I hope to have placed the rooms reasonably on the space, but as an amateur I have no sense of it. I therefore really appreciate any comments; better to be criticized now than waste money later because I missed something.



 

czumplanen

2024-10-23 22:08:31
  • #2
Oops, I didn't know that the interactive plans are not allowed to be linked here. Then gladly here again in full as a screenshot:

 

ypg

2024-10-23 23:07:41
  • #3

So, as a first priority, nothing should stand in front of a door (or terrace door) that would obstruct passage.
The function of terrace doors has completely failed here.
Where there are walls to place something or windows to look out or pass through, it shouldn’t be a problem. If you can’t manage that - no worries, that’s what architects are for.
In your case (depending on the budget), it should be a standard house model offered by your preferred general contractor.

Since you don’t yet know your needs or how big the house should be, I would advise planning a house with one bedroom on the ground floor and then finishing the attic, which could accommodate 2-3 bedrooms plus a bathroom, when the need arises. Everything else burns expensive money.
Regarding your design, aside from the windows:
A bungalow is not the most cost-effective type of construction. You plan the entrance where a hallway leads out that is large enough for a wardrobe but as small as possible.

A toilet doesn’t suffer from having a window, and the utility room is initially for building services. Secondly, it must accommodate the washing machine (and dryer) and also serve as a storage room if you don’t otherwise know where to put everyday clutter.
Basically, one should move away from the apartment mode and the house should clearly not appear to be a flat.

Your €275,000 for 105 sqm and additional building costs could be tight.
 

NatureSys

2024-10-23 23:07:58
  • #4
One question: What do you do professionally in the living room? That is, what feature does the living room need to have for your job?

A comment: There is a reason why architects study. The design contains many elements that will make the house difficult to sell. In this respect, I would rather look at typical floor plans from prefab house providers or go directly to an architect.

Orientation: The top edge points in two directions (plan right and plan left). So is right NOO or left NOO? Or is simply plan top NOO?
 

czumplanen

2024-10-24 00:48:03
  • #5


Thanks for your answer!

My idea was simply to equip both with doors, so that no matter how the room is eventually oriented, you always have some option to get out. That’s how we did it with our weekend house as well. There’s nothing in front of them yet today, but whichever exit is the most convenient depends on where you want to go on the property, and I assume the cost difference between a door with window panes and a floor-to-ceiling window isn’t that large?

I actually thought a bungalow would be cheaper, and I think my building consultant also said so on the phone regarding this size, but I may have misheard. Another argument for me for the bungalow was retirees who might want to buy the place someday because they want to live on one level. I’m far from that age, but an accident with subsequent knee problems last year made me hate stairs. Everything healed again, and of course that’s very anecdotal, but I can well imagine that someone 40 years older would appreciate something like that.

>Basically, one should move away from the apartment mindset and make it obvious that the house is not a flat.

I don’t quite understand that sentence; what exactly do you mean by that?

The additional construction costs of about 20k I consider as a separate item; I probably should have mentioned that.
 

czumplanen

2024-10-24 00:50:33
  • #6


Very good question from you, I phrased that poorly. I have a company and after years of 70-hour weeks, I’m now seriously hitting the brakes. That means instead of sitting day and night at the desk in the study, I now only delegate here and there (strongly romanticized), which also works on the sofa with a nice view, when I only have to check the laptop for 15 minutes every few hours. Basically, going forward it’s more leisure than work and I spend that—if I’m at home, of course—preferably in the nicest room.

>There is a reason why people study architecture.

It would never occur to me to dispute that.

>The design contains many elements that will make the house hard to sell.

Can you name a few things? I would really be interested to know what a stranger might stumble over there. My partner and family, who have all also put in their two cents now (imo for the better), are as much at peace with the design as I am (except maybe with the living room), but that could of course also be because we are all conditioned by the house we currently live in, and accordingly the opinion of five people is worth as much as that of one.

>Or is it simply planoben northeast?

Today, thanks to you, I learned the word "planoben" and that’s exactly what I meant.
 

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