Floor plan 185 sqm city villa tips

On the lower floor, we wanted a closed kitchen, which was also included in the offer price. Additionally, we wanted a larger utility room and a shower in the guest bathroom.
The idea to make the utility room a bit bigger was to shift both the kitchen and the utility room slightly to the left on the floor plan and accordingly reduce the living room a bit.

Moving a door does not mean extra effort. If you reduce the kitchen, the living room is not automatically reduced, only the dining area.

With the additional services, the offer came to €312,500.

Why do you think the city villa is exactly the wrong choice?

See my post, everything is written there.

It seems to be the Arcus B10.

Oops. Yes, it is. Original. Frightening!
With three children's rooms, I initially thought the justified objections from , , and you referred to shortcomings that would have only arisen in the course of reworking due to a third children's room. But the floor plan set shown here is unchanged from that of a standard model. So in this case, even the standard model is an exception to the rule that their floor plans are tried-and-true one-size-fits-all solutions.

From another thread, another user gave us the tip to publish our house construction plans/floor plan to get possible improvement suggestions.

He also gave further suggestions there and asked questions that are still open:

Side entrance door: but in a room designated in the catalog floor plan, simply where a window is?
Larger bathtub: only in terms of different dimensions than the construction specifications standard because the client is 1.90 m tall, but can it be well implemented at the spot designated in the catalog floor plan? – and shower in the guest WC where it is optionally drawn or with consequences for the floor plan?
Clinker brick: if yes, then definitely again only within the provider's selection here.
EH40: regularly "does not pay off" – but you can do it. It is for the target group "we gladly pay for an eco-seal."

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We are at the beginning of our planning phase and are in the process of deciding for .

But there should definitely be more in between than just this "and" (and also definitely not so quickly). You had also named other providers...

Team Massivhaus # # # Scan Haus # Mare # Ramona Böckmann

... so why exactly did it become a big name from those? – they actually recommend themselves as the last choice when you also have regional providers on the panel!

Basically, we like the standard floor plan. There are a few change requests such as a larger utility room, closed kitchen, shower in the guest WC, and a smaller living room.

So almost nothing needs to be changed. Okay, but then you are in the wrong movie with this basic model. But I already said that there too:

Basically: the more places you want to deviate from, the more you should question building with a general contractor.

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Arcus 152:
We wanted to enlarge this a bit (165-170 m²) due to a missing children's room. Living room, utility room bigger... Then we ended up at a similar price as with the B10.

I explain the problem in the post "Changing a floor plan in size" (and also here on the topic of larger families, but again the search function resists quick finding). I will keep at it.

Why do you think the city villa is exactly the wrong choice? "Only" because of the storage options?

Mainly because of the additional children's room; such modifications work better with "one-and-a-half-story" houses.

By the way, here the desire for an additional story was underestimated in its consequences for the staircase. What is the point of this change anyway?

I recommend a complete rethink here;
even better: an architect's plan "Module A" with donor floor plan review during the dough resting phase with key decisions;
i.e. no tinkering with this design at all.

I advise a complete restart; even better: architectural planning "Module A" with donor floor plan review during the dough resting phase with switch setting; i.e. no tinkering around with this design.

Well... that is hardly an option for the OP when you put together the individual components. The budget is barely sufficient, definitely not for an external architect, hence a general contractor house construction. The mentioned must-haves are being counted on... None of us can solve the problem, even less is the advice advisory. Personally, I am out here, because 180 sqm turnkey is not available for 320,000. It still costs at least 3000€/sqm, possibly less with own work... but I get the feeling that well over 500,000€ is not even up for debate for the OP.

I have no experience with prefabricated houses, but I also think that the offer is missing quite a bit. 1700 €/sqm cost our garage with a pitched roof and provision for photovoltaics two years ago.

Regarding your house offer:
- Earthworks are at least 80cm frost-free foundation, therefore there is additional effort there
- Additional effort for the floor slab can only be calculated after the soil investigation, in most cases the 10% buffer is used up
- Additional effort for exterior waterproofing of the base
- Outside there is the ETICS version, but including plaster. This is then the simple mineral plaster, which looks green after 3-4 years. Silicate plaster is better. The plaster is not painted.
- Painting work, as I said, is not included
- You will plaster the reinforced concrete ceiling yourselves (this is the case in many performance descriptions) and you are allowed to cover the very large roof overhang yourselves with material.
It’s always like a hidden object picture, searching for what is not included…
…And I hope you’re sitting now:
There is no screed and no interior plaster!
That is probably also why there is only the “tile package l” – they will provide tiles for the bathroom and WC.
I also do not see any tinsmith services listed.

However, this cannot be the full construction services specification?!
It should be somewhat longer, at least 20 pages, and then include almost every thickness, DIN standard and execution detail as well as costs per sqm tile or brand.

now a rough listing of the services that are included.

Just naming the rough stuff is not enough when you need the details.
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This sentence in the first post confused me a bit, especially since nothing was manually changed in the floor plan at all.

from another thread another user gave us the tip to publish our house building plans/floor plan in order to get possible improvement suggestions.

And that is why I reread your other thread sideways.

Since, as with many builders, there is no unlimited budget, Team Massivhaus is initially interesting for us because of the price.

It doesn’t matter here which general contractor wins the contract, but one thing is certain:

We want a simple, plain house without much “frills.”

Electric shutters
Secondary entrance door
Larger bathtub
Shower in guest bathroom
Brick facade?
KfW40?
Additional room that is not included in the floor plan

As you can see, nothing special except maybe KfW 40.

We would probably like to have a brick facade.

That – and exactly that – such wishes turn a budget house into an average-cost house. But then you might as well take a normally priced house that already includes those things.
But indeed, renouncing is better.
Further savings through own work. Means besides flooring and painting work also that you possibly remove one or two trades and do the sanitary work yourself with a buddy. I just read in another forum that many people do this: waive the warranty, get paid out, and install the parts themselves from Ikea and the DIY store.

I have no experience with prefabricated houses,

Heinz von Heiden is a normal solid builder and has a salesperson in every region. They will come to you if needed, talk, calculate and sell you a house.

By the way, this is a particularly energy-saving design from 2005. Today, people design for a flow temperature of 30 degrees - that costs a considerable surcharge (or increased heating costs if you rely on Heinz von Heiden).