Floor plan 1.5 stories gable roof without basement - Criticism / Suggestions?

  • Erstellt am 2021-10-03 21:29:14

Tom1978

2021-10-05 15:41:34
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A former fellow student of mine (now Doctor of Architecture) said: "If it has to be beautiful, ask the architect. If it has to work, ask the structural engineer" :-)
 

ypg

2021-10-05 15:49:18
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Biolek also often said the word "interesting". ... whenever he didn't like it ;)
 

11ant

2021-10-05 16:10:32
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Where can one earn a doctorate in that? - I only know of the Dr.-Ing., mind you with a hyphen.
 

Tom1978

2021-10-05 16:14:01
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Yes, you get the Dr. Ing. But he studied architecture in Hanover and also completed his PhD there.
 

ChristianAusN

2021-10-06 09:58:27
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Hello ypg,

thank you for your detailed and honest words!



That rather originated from the other side, the living room side. There was a 62.5 cm "recess" for the living room wall (...) whose side I later converted into the mentioned slope.
By the way, regarding the dimensions, I worked on a 12.5 cm grid.



Yes, I recently came across that too – I probably need to reconsider building over 2 steps.



Sealing: Yes, good point. Thanks.
Energetically: I do not necessarily see a disadvantage now. The wall between the garage and the house (upper floor) would of course be executed with the same brick as the rest of the exterior walls. Next to it, mostly a closed airspace, which from the house’s point of view forms a (maybe not even so bad) resistance to outside temperature.



I understand the point. Regarding undemanding tenants, I rather had in mind the children who will someday be grown up ;-)



I agree with you, that probably does not really fit together.



That would mean insulating the roof all the way to the top from the beginning, since it is always open to the attic (instead of only up to the top floor ceiling). I will have to think about that.




Yes, the 400k is well estimated / 100k for the land and incidental construction costs.
160-175 m², roof conversion/insulation for the garage and attic was initially not planned. Only the slopes of the upper floor or the top floor ceiling, of course.

This is a separate calculation that is mostly based on real offers (family in construction, status: approx. 04/2021). They are currently building a 12x10 m city villa (2 full floors) with an 8x8 m garage, both with hip roofs. I adopted their offer prices and added a 10% "price increase buffer" for myself in each case.
For example, their shell construction offer from a local mason (site setup, equipment/scaffolding, foundation slab house + garage, ground floor + upper floor with 42.5 cm bricks, garage 24 cm bricks, both ceilings house + garage ceiling reinforced concrete) is around 90k.
Rural area in southern Germany (approx. 80 km to the nearest city >100k inhabitants), btw.

Also to consider is that I can contribute approximately 650 helper hours myself during the approx. 3-month shell construction phase, mainly for
- helper masonry work (only a foreman and master occasionally for the first row, for example)
- electrical installation 100% on my own (experience and also the possibility of acceptance and registration on the family side are given here)
- roof covering
- insulation and sealing work upper floor / roof

Admittedly, the outdoor facilities are not included in my calculation.



Yes, that is probably good advice, thank you.



Overall, I read your objections mostly like this: Rather forgo a bit more garden area and plan the house bigger(?)



General contractors as well as prefabricated house providers are probably out for the planned own efforts, right?
To be honest: I am also not willing to pay someone tens of thousands of euros for obtaining offers, commissioning, and organizing the trades.
An architect also seems to be a bit of a gamble to some extent – I have already heard things that I myself would not have planned like that as a layman. But probably this is still the way...

Thanks again and best regards!
 

Myrna_Loy

2021-10-06 10:17:17
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I always find it amusing how many people here assume that at least one of the children will stay in the house. :)
 

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