Fencing in RLP: Is a small fence allowed on private property?

  • Erstellt am 2023-06-28 15:05:53

motorradsilke

2023-06-30 22:17:14
  • #1

Concrete is available as a ready-made mix at the hardware store, you just need to add water. Or you can have gravel delivered and get a few bags of cement and mix it yourself. And almost anyone can get them straight with a few strings and a level.
 

WilderSueden

2023-06-30 22:33:14
  • #2
I would definitely mix concrete myself. The ready-made mixes are insanely expensive if you want to concrete more than a small hole. Alternatively, drive-in sleeves, a chain-link fence doesn't have much wind pressure anyway. And later you don't have so much concrete in the garden that has to be removed tediously.
 

motorradsilke

2023-07-01 08:29:29
  • #3
I mix it myself too. But I also have a trailer and get the gravel 3 km away from the company. If you have to have gravel delivered, it’s not worth it if you only want to concrete a few holes. At Hornbach, a bag of ready-mixed concrete costs €5.75, and 1 to 2 bags are enough for a fence post hole if you put a few old stones in as well. You have to calculate it. Drive-in sleeves don’t work on every type of soil either. Here in our sandy soil, you can lever them out by hand if you’re unlucky. And a fence doesn’t just have to withstand wind pressure; sometimes a child or a dog runs into it too.
 

WilderSueden

2023-07-01 13:10:18
  • #4
In the new development area, there is surely someone who rents out their trailer cheaply. Depending on other projects (or together with the neighbor), it might also make sense to have a full 3-axle load delivered. Maybe there is still a swing for concreting in, curbstones, etc.
A 25kg bag yields about 12 liters of concrete. That means, with a 30cm diameter and 30cm depth, you have already used 2 bags. Then it’s better if only a small dog runs into it, given your sandy soil ;)
So I would rather take 3 bags per hole. That means with 20-30 holes, a mere 1.5-2 pallets of ready-mix concrete.
 

Tolentino

2023-07-01 16:17:53
  • #5
The problem with ready-mix concrete is that you can't process it that quickly, not even with two people. With the bags, you can make hole after hole. Of course, if you have six men or more, you can do a fence line on a Saturday - oh no, the concrete plant doesn’t work on Saturdays. No no, for own work the bags are definitely more practical.

You can also do it with cement and sand. I'm doing that right now because I still have a pile of sand left. But it’s definitely more work. How much you save there you’d have to calculate. Roughly, with one bag of cement you can make four to five times as much ready-mix concrete. But it also costs about 2/3 as much. So for the same money you still have 3 times more. But then you still need gravel. No idea what that costs right now – maybe 20 EUR / m³ with delivery? So it’s negligible. You then have to consider whether you want to save 150 EUR per m³ but have 30% more work. There is one advantage to mixing it yourself. You can adjust the mix. So more cement or also less cement, depending on the application.
 

kati1337

2023-07-01 17:45:42
  • #6
After the 5-6 posts on the topic of concrete and cement, I'm already so demotivated to do anything myself again. I didn't even know that cement and concrete are different. Let alone that you can mix one from the other.^^

I can think about the drive-in sleeves. Although I don't even know if I can get them driven in. I'll get some other offers from fence builders.
Welded wire mesh isn't exactly a visual highlight for me either, but as someone already said: a compromise between price and durability.
 

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