Development in the second row without a development plan? What can we do?

  • Erstellt am 2020-08-15 14:57:03

Escroda

2020-08-16 07:08:14
  • #1
Yes. Yes, but only the building preliminary inquiry, which does not yet allow a start of construction. A building permit requires, as you yourself already write, planning maturity according to §33 of the Building Code. And for that, the decision to prepare is not sufficient, but a "completed" plan must be available that can be disclosed. The difference to the legally binding plan according to §30 of the Building Code only consists in the consideration of citizens' inputs and the resolution of the statute including the announcement. Replan, rent the uncle's new penthouse at the "family price," and wait until the development plan is legally binding. Apparently you saw through the municipality by using "apparently," which just pretends with this one argument not to have to act. Preparing a development plan is very time-consuming. Just look at the neighboring development plan. It took 25 months from the resolution of the statute to becoming legally binding, although it essentially only secures the existing situation. The procedure has not become easier in the last 20 years, and you need extensive densification options. I also expect resistance from Wihostraße. Yes, if you have time. Yes, if you don't have time. ... that changes nothing about the planning law situation, at least not in your favor, but rather the opposite, because if it goes really badly, the uncle's plans might be stalled based on §15 of the Building Code. ... which is of no use to you because you need a building permit that is only promised to you. More – in terms of a binding date – will not be granted to you. No, only shortly before the conclusion of the development plan procedure. As long as all conditions of §33 of the Building Code are not met, §34 of the Building Code applies, and according to it, the project is not approvable.
 

Stefan1987

2020-08-16 10:26:25
  • #2
Well, that’s what I’m wondering too. I explain it this way: the project must fit into the surrounding development according to § 34 of the Building Code. And that would not be the case with a development in the second row. And here it is obviously irrelevant that the neighbors are not at all bothered by it, but actually support it. That is just Germany, where one (in this case and from our point of view) unfortunately adheres very strictly to the laws instead of trying to enable sensible projects (see § 1a of the Building Code).

Ok, thanks for the detailed assessment.

Well. The thing is that if the second row development is not secured, the uncle will build differently. Then a big block of rental apartments with 5 or 6 units will go there. I can’t blame him for that either. Besides, we want to have children soon. Such a rental apartment would be too small anyway.

Yes, that’s the feeling I have too. It’s a pity actually. Still, thanks for your assessment here as well. I will call again next week to maybe get some clarity...
 

11ant

2020-08-16 12:45:13
  • #3
Well, then everything is clear: the uncle builds it so that apartments 5 and 6 can be combined into the proposed penthouse.
 

Stefan1987

2020-08-16 12:48:04
  • #4

Which would, however, contradict the desire for a home of one's own (= own house with its own garden). Call me old-fashioned, stuffy, crazy, or whatever, but I want to raise my children in a single-family house.
 

11ant

2020-08-16 12:55:02
  • #5
Well, with the uncle as the landlord, it should be possible to arrange that the penthouse tenants use the garden.
 

Escroda

2020-08-16 15:33:20
  • #6

Yeah, stupid – in Italy everyone would have simply built for their Bambini in the garden and then wondered five times a year why everything was underwater. And in China the whole neighborhood would have been relocated to the Mongolian border to build a corona clinic at the convenient traffic hub.

Then he has to hurry, otherwise the establishment resolution will come sooner than expected and the building application will go into the waiting loop. In the neighboring plans there are restrictions on residential units or tight limits on the number of floors and floor area ratio/plot ratio that oppose such a project.

But only as long as the development plan is not yet legally binding. Building suitability in the second row is indeed in prospect, just that it is not achievable in the short term. If you stay on the ball with the decision-makers and maybe find one or the other supporter among the neighbors, you can start in five years, that is before the first child starts school.
 

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