Craftsman demands "pitching in"

  • Erstellt am 2014-12-10 22:14:53

Ben1000

2014-12-11 20:07:57
  • #1
I can understand Elina's anger. I also don't understand why it's always such a problem to procure materials oneself (at least when the warranty issue is excluded). The craftsman has a time expenditure X and gets paid X. That is fair. What is not fair is hiding the costs in the materials. The craftsman here, at least according to your description, did not provide the agreed service, so why should he be paid in full for it?
 

klblb

2014-12-11 20:38:55
  • #2
Agree with . The craftsman knew what he was getting into. If he does not fulfill his part of the contract, does not have to either.
 

HilfeHilfe

2014-12-12 07:26:21
  • #3
It looks like a legal dispute here. I'm curious to see what happens. It is indeed a complex case here.
 

DG

2014-12-12 12:25:37
  • #4
What is complex about that? Elina ordered the installation; the craftsman did not deliver the installation completely.

If he accepts the reduced invoice, the matter is settled. If not, he should sue for the remaining amount – the amount in dispute is so low that he will not recoup the attorney’s fees in a settlement (which is likely here and will probably be in Elina’s favor – at least that is my opinion), so the lawsuit is only being pursued for the sake of the lawsuit; only the attorney can win there.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe
 

Bauexperte

2014-12-12 12:25:58
  • #5
Hello,


Yvonne has already described it well from her experience. These portals shift the price/performance ratio in a direction that can only be unhealthy in the long term and will consequently lead to insolvencies. The prices offered there uniformly hover at the lower limit; they have to operate at that level. In this respect, your statement "We had 3 other quotes for the installation, which were roughly all about the same price. So this does not seem to be an unusual market wage" is misleading because these prices are far from market standard, and that is also the goal of these portals.

I wonder why you didn’t directly ask local craftsmen for the respective products plus installation? Then the question of warranty would not even arise, which, in the worst case, could certainly have interesting outcomes.


Nothing is hidden; it is common practice to base a mixed calculation on this. Why is that not fair? No one can seriously expect craftsmen to sell the devices at their own capital cost, preferably work almost for free, but take full warranty (which is roughly what these portals encourage).

If this continues in this country, soon we will have the model of the former Tätärätättä: organization is everything, and knowing someone who knows what they're doing. Because with this approach of the customer being king, many craft companies will not be able to keep up and will have to file for insolvency—with the known consequences for employees and craftsmen and their families.

Rhenish regards
 

Bauexperte

2014-12-12 12:32:59
  • #6
Hello Dirk,


I wouldn't be so sure about that; you must not forget that here (in the forum) only Elina's perspective is presented. But a coin always has two sides

I see it this way, that it proves true that in the end everyone gets what they deserve. And that's a good thing

Rhenish greetings
 

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