Cost-effective building without loss of quality, architect's house

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Malunga

2024-01-02 23:18:11
  • #1
Are the 400k excluding VAT and additional construction costs? You can’t save anything here; at 350€ per meter, I don’t think of such cheap rural areas. Are there comparable projects in the neighborhood that can give you a reference point for “building on a slope”? For us, in addition to VAT, there were at least 20% additional construction costs and tens of thousands of euros in “unforeseen” expenses to cover. I would actually consider whether 400k€ for a location, even if lucrative, is not set very cheaply nowadays, even if experience is available.
 

HilfeHilfe

2024-01-03 05:40:20
  • #2
Cost-effective Building without Quality Loss, Architect House

Sorry, but there are 2 contradictions in that.
 

IIIIIIIIIIIIII

2024-01-03 08:34:50
  • #3


The plan is not available yet, it is just being created, maybe I am still too early here, much of what you would like to have and know does not exist yet.

Moving in will be me and my girlfriend, both 30 years old and currently childless, and we actually want to remain childless or at most (!) have 1 child.



I do not want to optimize the floor plan yet, but rather exclude or include things in advance that do or don’t make sense, the planned ~120m2 are also realistic (I have been in several prefabricated houses from 80-200m2, 120/130m2 feels right)



Ok, I probably expressed myself wrongly there, we want 1 ground floor and then a developed roof truss on top, 60 sqm per floor is probably, as you say, suboptimal in terms of floor plan.
Putting everything on one floor probably makes the slope work much more expensive, as more area has to be created..

Many thanks for the other tips :)
 

IIIIIIIIIIIIII

2024-01-03 08:46:44
  • #4


It is a cheap rural area. Just at a spot where rich people like to have a second home. (Not us, we want to live there, family is from the village.)
The other projects that were realized there are all smaller residential complexes with apartments (4-12 units per building, holiday apartments/investment properties).

400k for a house from the foundation slab should be realistically possible – a prefab house provider told us on inquiry that this house we just visited including foundation slab (of course on flat land) would cost 400,000€. Turnkey. 150m2.

I cannot imagine that building a 120m2 house should cost more than 600,000€, even on a slope.
A friend of mine is building a 300m2 villa for 800,000€ (including double garage, swimming pool, and outdoor facilities…) on a slope.




If you read my post carefully, there are not.
There are certainly things that can be omitted or replaced that are not needed for a qualitative build.
Or is a house with smart home electronics only with surcharge a qualitative build?

Besides, we do not want to build as cheaply as possible, just find things that have no added value for us and save costs there. Otherwise, we would indeed have the cheapest 120m2 prefab house built without frills. (But that does not cost 400k, but rather 280k)
 

xMisterDx

2024-01-03 09:56:28
  • #5


Although I am a big fan of the "off-the-shelf house," since you can actually get good quality relatively cheaply here... the surcharges for individuality drive the price up without providing a corresponding increase in quality... it’s a classic phenomenon in serial production: when the customer wants extras, it quickly becomes disproportionately expensive without the added value increasing at the same rate...

Unfortunately, you still haven’t understood that this doesn’t work on your (very steep) slope. The prefabricated house provider places the house on a foundation slab. Done. In 99.5% of all cases, they don’t have a standard house that can be placed on the slope with a habitable basement/cellar floor. And you can’t redesign the standard house without extensive changes to be placed on the slope.

The companies that the prefabricated house provider has at hand also have little experience with something like this, because they mostly only build houses on foundation slabs and don’t build basements into the slope with waterproofing, light wells, etc.

With your 400k you’re already at the lower end of the scale for a custom-designed house that you need due to the individual situation on the slope. That’s how it is. For comparison, the standard Flair 125 house from my favorite comparison provider Town & Country already costs nearly 300k in the 120m² version. Turnkey. Then another easily 50,000 EUR come on top to make it move-in ready.

What you have in mind won’t work with your budget. And even if it did, are you aware of what your steep slope means for the outdoor facilities? Unless you are a virtuoso with an excavator, another 100,000 EUR will be added to properly lay everything out.
 

xMisterDx

2024-01-03 10:02:51
  • #6
How "dertill" ended up there as a source is beyond me. Sorry, but unfortunately it can no longer be edited.
 

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