Construction project - ventilation system, heating - your experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2019-12-16 19:17:50

boxandroof

2019-12-17 11:46:58
  • #1

Comparisons are of little value. For example, you have circulation installed. If anything, one should also compare the amount of heat and not just the electricity consumption.
 

Daniel-Sp

2019-12-17 12:35:23
  • #2

So far we mostly had temperatures above 4°C, let's see how consumption is with real frost.
The circulation runs only 45 minutes in intervals in the evening. I arrived too late, otherwise I would have stopped the installation.
 

Daniel-Sp

2019-12-17 13:22:38
  • #3

I have to correct myself, we have had the electricity meter for only 4 weeks after all, but I am still satisfied. 1 kWh of electricity produces 5 kWh of heat
 

11ant

2019-12-17 14:14:29
  • #4
Yes, the architect also has specialist planners by his side. But a good architect familiarizes himself with the various techniques and does not let the installers chisel at a fresh house with the Hilti, where he can also plan the breakthroughs. And quite right, most of the time he is not as skilled in any of the techniques as if they were directly part of his area of expertise. That is exactly why I would become suspicious if an architect adopts any marketing nonsense - whether it is that of the sellers or that of the detractors. If the client says, "I want to heat with raspberry juice," then the architect should write it down exactly like that and discuss with the contractor how to imagine the piping through the building with this technique. But that also means including in the bid evaluation that one deals with a functionality and its references. You don’t get rewarded for this effort if such a planning contract remains a one-off case. That’s why many architects "prefer to do the flag thing," as it is nicely put in the Sparkasse commercial.

Also regarding architects (and heating technologies), my mantra applies: not to retrain a red brick mason into a white brick mason, but either to tailor the product to the installer or vice versa, but never to let a winemaker brew beer. And in the orchestra, the conductor is indeed a "load-bearing wall," i.e., in the wheel of the specialist planners, the architect is the hub and must achieve "good chemistry" with all the spokes. And of course, an architect should not say yes and amen, but also not what the peasant does not know, that he does not eat.

Meanwhile, various discussants here have explained what a vast field of complex considerations a heating concept is. It should have become clear that one cannot simply let an architect plan a house blindly according to the "always done that way" method and think that if you then replace on one square meter of the house connection room what the architect otherwise planned with a kryptonite reactor, you would have catapulted the house into the modern age with this singular module. An exhaust gas turbocharger is of no use at all to an electric motor; there you have to think differently even at the auxiliary system level.


What is a Riemchen "construction"? - Riemchen are clinker cut into slices and are therefore not built up in masonry, but glued on, i.e., they adhere less with their underside to the layer of bricks beneath them, but rather like tiles with their back to the wall. They are therefore not a masonry shell but a wall cladding. C´est tout - there is nothing inferior about that. Questionable alternatives are only panels with foamed or printed fakes, which I, however, would not call clinker.


Run a virus scanner over your acquired half-knowledge before you write a wish list to the architect with it. The notion that any maintenance effort would simply run off a clinker facade is a popular myth. On a mottled Mettwurst clinker you see dirt only later than on snow-white plaster.
 

boxandroof

2019-12-17 15:59:43
  • #5

From my experience, I can only agree with that insofar as someone who is not familiar with how heat pumps work efficiently should not use such providers. So much for theory.

In practice, it turns out that even manufacturers set specifications that clearly hinder efficiency. Of course, there are reasons for this, but they are not necessarily in the interest of the builder who pays the heating bill every year. I don't know many architects, but we stopped involving ours early on in technical questions, and that was the right way for us.
You have to study on your own and supervise yourself, be very lucky, or have it planned properly. In my experience, architects and craftsmen are unsuitable for the latter. See also the post by Dr. Hix.
 

ludwig88sta

2019-12-17 16:42:16
  • #6


But where? The problem nowadays in my opinion is over-information. There are so many websites, you don't even know which one to read first and then whom to trust with differing opinions.

For example, I am torn between a gas heating system and a heat pump (air-water or groundwater).

Do you know energy experts [] org?
 

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