Conduits for SAT and TK, mandatory or not in new construction?

  • Erstellt am 2022-06-29 17:46:26

darksun

2022-06-29 17:46:26
  • #1
Hello, I am unsure whether it is now mandatory for the developer (prefabricated house) to lay SAT and TK cables (future-proof) in empty conduits or not. Or does this only apply from the transfer point to the first in-house "main distributor" (DSL modem, SAT multiswitch, ...) and not to the individual sockets? I have found DIN 18015, but how is it to be interpreted?
 

clausen77

2022-07-01 00:02:29
  • #2
I don’t understand your question? The developer does what is stated in the [Bauleistungsbeschreibung]. What does it say for you? For example, with us TV connections in all rooms were included. But I had them removed because I want to cover everything via IPTV. I will then get a few euros credit…
 

darksun

2022-07-01 09:57:54
  • #3
He has to do that. The point is that he also must do certain things even if they are not or would not be included in the construction description. I'll put it exaggerated / e.g.: Even if there is nothing about protective earth conductor to sockets or residual current devices in the construction service description, sockets MUST be connected with protective earth conductors and RCDs must be installed. My question: How about empty conduits for SAT and telecom cables? Is this not mandatory for new buildings? Is there possibly a DIN that requires this?
 

WilderSueden

2022-07-01 10:50:45
  • #4
Why should that be mandatory? That is not safety-relevant but luxury
 

Scout**

2022-07-01 12:05:00
  • #5
Due to DIN 18105 - on the relationship between technology in standards and the law, the BGH decided in a judgment of 14.05.1998 – VII ZR 184/97 according to the sense and content in this case of DIN 820: The DIN standards are not legal norms, but private technical regulations with a recommendatory character. They can reflect the recognized rules of technology or fall short of them.

In safety-technical provisions in DIN standards there is a factual presumption that they are professionally correct, i.e. that they are “recognized rules of technology.” So now the question would be whether a conduit is safety-technically necessary because otherwise a danger would arise. I would clearly deny this (!) for telecommunications cables as opposed to elements required in the DIN such as surge protection or RCD. Thus, it is not an obligation for the electrician to use them—unless this has been expressly agreed.

So talk to the electrician and plan accordingly. But please note that you cannot use too tight radii and too many bends, otherwise you will not be able to replace anything afterwards anyway (for example with CAT-7 a minimum bending radius of around 50 mm). After three corners, such an additional empty junction box in the middle would also be quite sensible. Please use a diameter from DN 25, ideally even DN 32. That means, a DN 20 conduit installed at a right angle over 4 corners may also be a conduit, serves as a protective pipe—but only formally for exchangeability.
 

ypg

2022-07-01 12:12:05
  • #6
No, empty conduits are not mandatory because they only serve for easier upgrading. TK for telecommunication? Why would you need to upgrade that? One outlet and good final planning are sufficient. Also plan SAT from the start. Isn’t there an installation level/shaft in a prefabricated house?
 

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