Challenge at a 1/4 circle house ;)

  • Erstellt am 2019-11-05 02:16:14

Serdar88

2019-11-05 02:16:14
  • #1
Hello everyone,

Attention "repost" after optimization. Reloaded.

What has happened so far:

I am currently planning a house on a somewhat challenging plot geometry (of course, the question immediately arises, "why don't you buy a plot that you can work with better," answer: in our BW region X there are practically no affordable plots. Plot prices from the city at 480 €/m2.) The plot is located somewhat outside the city and was purchased comparatively very inexpensively.

Okay, so now I have the plot and "only" the house is missing on it

In advance, the building authority grants me no exemptions

A big challenge is the house geometry, since I would like to have the terrace in the South/West and also enough space inside the house.

In the first attempt, I planned several corners. House geometry as ground floor


After your contributions/ideas, I completely rounded this into a ¼ circle, which I also like better and can warm up to
Yes, the issue of walls, windows, and furniture is somewhat more complex, but it has a certain something


Currently, I have considered the following layout.

Here the sample key data:

Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 434m2
Slope: no (or minimal)
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building coverage ratio: 0.4
Building window: see above development plan (2.5m to neighbors)
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: garage + 2 parking spaces
Number of floors: 2 full floors (basement + ground floor + upper floor)
Roof shape: monopitch roof
Style: semi-detached house
Orientation: see above development plan, right side
Maximum heights/limits: FH 8.5, TH 5.5
Further specifications:

Requirements of the builders
Style: modern
Building type: semi-detached house 2 stories each approx. 120 m2
Basement, floors: 0, 1.5
Number of persons, age: 2 adults, currently no children
Space requirement per floor: approx. 120 m²
Office: family use or home office?: office in living room or children's room
Overnight guests per year: 15 next
Open or closed architecture: partly
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with dining and living area with access to the terrace
Fireplace: optional
Music/stereo wall: TV on the wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage yes
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, gladly also reasons why this or that should or should not be

House design
By whom is the planning: by me
I like having a larger terrace in the South/West directly from the living-dining area
Both bedrooms have their own bathroom
Bathrooms all in one line for the plumbing

Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: 550TE without furniture without plot
Preferred heating technology: gas burner

If you have to forgo, which details/extensions
- can you do without: not sure
- cannot do without:

Why is the design the way it is now? for example
As described above, I wanted a large kitchen, dining, and living area with direct exit to the main terrace.
For that, maximally placing the house to the north. 2 bedrooms each with a bathroom.

Here are my questions; or requests for help

What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
1. Do you find the rounding better than the corners in the first design?
Before:

Today:


2. What do you think about my floor plan (new)?
Architect complains:
-- bathrooms without windows (no-go?)
-- small entrance area, stairs without landing are bad, stairs to basement are bad
-- bedroom 2 should be in the east (in case of a child)

3. How would you optimize the weaknesses from point 2?

4. What do you think of the initial design from my architect?


Thanks in advance and best regards
 

kbt09

2019-11-05 06:56:20
  • #2


Should all that still fit?
 

Serdar88

2019-11-05 07:07:28
  • #3


Two-family house, that is 120m2 ground floor + 120 upstairs

Thank you
 

Scout

2019-11-05 07:34:06
  • #4
Floor area ratio 0.4*434m2=174m2. That is your maximum permissible floor area.

The sum of the areas of the full floors of a building results in the floor area. The area of the full floors is calculated based on the external dimensions of the building.

You have roughly 17x10 m as the volume in the last plan (minus rounding plus overhang at the top plan near the bedroom)...

That means with a full floor on the ground floor, your floor area ratio is already approximately fully utilized! Above the "bungalow" only a roof or a partial floor would be permissible, definitely no full floor anymore.

The architect surely knows the floor area ratio? How should it continue in the upper floor?
 

kbt09

2019-11-05 07:41:24
  • #5
I see it the same way as Scout. Maybe will still chime in.

The question is also, why should it be these 2 residential units?
 

Scout

2019-11-05 07:42:30
  • #6
PS: in your first thread you wrote about a basement and here about BW as the construction site. And: "Price estimate according to architect/planner: €330,000 including outdoor facilities and kitchen"

Let's say €60,000 for outdoor facilities and additional construction costs as well as a cheap kitchen from Roller. That leaves €270,000 for your 120 m2 on the ground floor. That could be enough.

But for a basement and even another VG with another 120 m2 on the upper floor? Impossible!
 

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