Ceiling and stair lighting wanted

Get Kaiser HaloX boxes installed, that way you are flexible and can install any spots later on...

Even better is to raise the ceiling a bit higher and then lower it later. Therefore, we have a raw construction height of 315cm. Especially with spots, the exact position is very important and almost impossible to determine perfectly in advance. Therefore, I don't think much of concrete embedded boxes at all.

What are you paying the Lichtguru for if he can't manage to position the few spots properly? You can really make an elephant out of every mosquito. Your way optimizes the last 5% and costs ten times as much.

Why are you even paying the lighting expert if he can’t manage to position those few spots properly? You can really make a mountain out of a molehill. Your approach optimizes the last 5% and costs ten times as much.

I didn’t have a lighting planner just now... too late for that! But for the “next” house I would definitely have one. You totally underestimate the topic of lighting and it is essentially important. Nothing stressed me out more than the topic of lighting. Now I have a solution consisting of many compromises. Alternatively, I would have preferred to invest a few thousand euros and have it done professionally. Sure, you don’t need planning for basic lamps (one per room). But as soon as spots come into play, it’s a different story. Most people really use/place spots completely wrong. Absolutely creepy what you see on the internet and at other people’s places. They illuminate their living room, kitchen, etc. like a fashion store.

Where does your insight come from on how to position spots correctly so that it doesn't look like in a fashion store? If the information becomes widespread, it might be possible to avoid that in the future.

Where does your insight come from about how to position spots correctly so that it doesn't look like in a fashion store? If this information catches on, it might be possible to avoid that in the future

There are specialist forums for that. Just read up on it. In general, one can say: small spots (no matter how many degrees) should never be used for primary lighting, as the light is always relatively sharply defined and does not illuminate the upper part of the room.

Nevertheless, we are installing almost 40 spots throughout the house... but not for the main lighting. For that, high-quality LED panels (round) are used that provide very even and soft illumination. We illuminate the living room exclusively indirectly via LED strips and do without a "normal" lamp. With 23 watts per meter, that is feasible.

So far, of course, all theory... in a few months I will know how it works... then I can give some feedback. Whether my way is perfect... I tend to doubt it... but I am making a great effort.

Addendum: Just a tip: "lid Wall" from Serien Lighting is a real insider tip!!! Really powerful and 100% indirect.. only lights up the wall/ceiling without glare. We install 9x dimming via DALI.. very soft and down to 1%