Building without execution planning - experiences whether this is possible?

  • Erstellt am 2018-10-05 17:23:13

Alex85

2018-10-05 19:27:55
  • #1
So the really only, very big exception, maybe, would be if the site manager can put in a massive amount of time on site. For payment, that would probably be insanity, but if the lady is willing to spend hours guiding the hand ... then it might be possible.
 

ypg

2018-10-05 22:08:59
  • #2


I think so.... someone here was without.
 

Traumfaenger

2018-10-05 22:20:26
  • #3
He definitely has an execution plan! It may have been incomplete, incorrect, or misleading in some places, but of course he requested an execution plan, he’s not made of money! PS: And I would definitely not do without it, unless you’re building a run-of-the-mill house for the 500th time and you don’t care much about how it’s implemented later.
 

11ant

2018-10-06 00:37:44
  • #4

In the end, this sounds almost like "apart from wheels and an engine, this car basically has everything." How poor must a document management system be if it is at all possible to derive execution plans from an outdated draft drawing? - the currency of a master document must be crucial so that it "is even allowed to propagate." And it must be coordinated who is allowed to distribute documents. Here, the client (!) was given the task of forwarding an outdated (!) plan to the energy supplier. In the case of the ceiling openings, the mistake was "merely" that they were not "required reading" for the executors.

The three supporting pillars of an execution plan are:

1) Truth.
That means it must reflect the current status of decisions.

2) Unambiguity.
Simply providing a parapet or knee wall height "accurate to the centimeter" but "merely" omitting whether this measurement is before or after Christ is worthless.

3) Attention.
An execution plan is only as valuable as it is actually read.
 

Traumfaenger

2018-10-06 00:50:06
  • #5
Apparently, a construction project is so complicated that mistakes happen everywhere. Our house was also completely clad with bricks in the execution plan against our wishes, everything was fitted with parquet including the kitchen and garage (probably the first garage with underfloor heating and parquet). Ultimately, a builder must read the execution plan very carefully before approving it, only some details are not immediately recognizable to the layman and then misfortune takes its course... like with the robber. Once you have built, you understand the saying "the first house is for the enemy" and so on. The learning curve when building is immensely steep, especially if you significantly deviate from the standard...
 

Maria16

2018-10-06 09:20:06
  • #6
We only had a small version of an execution plan. What was in it was worth every cent in my eyes.
In particular, all ceiling outlets/ riser shafts were combined in the planning – the individual plans came from the plumbing company and the electrician. And that BEFORE the final static analysis. (A HKV and riser shaft in the load-bearing wall led to a reinforced concrete column according to the structural engineer)

I would advise everyone again to include as much as possible in the execution plan when it comes to topics they don’t handle themselves. Example: Since we did the piping ourselves, sockets in the overall plan would have been too much, we partially adjusted the electrician’s plans quickly on site in the rooms... Spots and outlets, on the other hand, were in the plan beforehand because we had filigree ceilings.

We decided on site how deep exactly the windows should sit in the reveal.
Also, the projection of the window sills over the plastered wall.

I think what’s important is: are you the type who wants to decide everything?
The aunt as a guardian would only relieve you up to the point where she doesn’t have to come back to you to clarify decisions.

The most extreme example from my circle of acquaintances: it was only clarified shortly before the start of the masonry work how large exactly the window openings/ parapet heights should be. Will you leave such decisions entirely to your aunt? Or should she call every time it’s about the aesthetics of details/ the position of switches or the like? The latter is usually more short-term and greatly increases the stress level!
 

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