Building plot: Massive fill or better basement with excavation?

  • Erstellt am 2019-03-31 19:14:05

Thierse

2019-04-02 07:21:31
  • #1
Thank you. And what costs are realistic if you fill up a hillside plot up to 3m with recycled gravel and build on it?

The civil engineer was of the opinion that this is cheaper than a basement including excavation, because the gravel is inexpensive, less excavation is required, and no lifting system is needed.
 

quisel

2019-04-02 07:29:46
  • #2
I don't quite understand the vehement rejection towards the lifting station here at this point. Of course, it is nicer if you can build without it and save the costs (which I also include maintenance expenses) for it. But in view of the total investment volume, such a thing usually doesn’t really weigh that much. If you want to have a bathroom / laundry room or whatever in the basement and the cost of the station does not deter you - then go ahead!

What you should of course consider at this point, and this has already been mentioned here as well: How many wastewater outlets are there in the basement and is it worthwhile from a cost/benefit perspective in combination with the lifting station, or is it better to leave these rooms out and direct guests to the bathroom on the ground floor.
 

Grantlhaua

2019-04-02 08:53:13
  • #3


Clearly, it is cheaper than a basement including excavation. However, you will then need all the rooms from the basement on the ground floor/upper floor, and horticulturally the costs will also soar. Send a picture of your property.

Is partial basement not an option either?
 

Mottenhausen

2019-04-02 09:23:42
  • #4
You simply don’t build a bathroom in the basement. If you don’t have a basement, you don’t have a bathroom in the basement. And that takes the topic of a lifting station off the table. What I forgot to finish writing earlier: The condensate drain of the (e.g.) gas heating system can also be collected in a canister and then has to be manually emptied from time to time, so heating in the basement is not a compelling reason for a drain in the basement.

Why shouldn’t you backfill with clayey soil? Currently, it is naturally backfilled in the soil anyway. A layer of clean topsoil on top, possibly a thin sand base underneath as a drainage layer between clay and topsoil, so that it doesn’t become a swamp garden.

If you build without a basement and see the hole the guys are digging out and then the bill for the earthworks and 500t of mineral mixture (that’s not as much as it sounds, here we also used over 200t on a very slight slope and for construction roads etc. and you barely see any of it), you’ll regret not having built with a basement.
 

DASI90

2019-04-02 09:38:54
  • #5


I wanted to pick up the soil issue again. Since I assume it is similar for him. In our area, there are many clays and especially loess clays which sometimes cannot be properly compacted after excavation. Depending on soil conditions, it must also be meticulously ensured after excavation that they do not get any wetness/moisture. Just an aside without evaluating the situation and the problem of the OP.
 

haydee

2019-04-02 13:05:34
  • #6
Clay soil probably has to be removed anyway. Call the landfills yourself and ask what they accept and how much it costs. With the 500 cubic meters, you can fill the area of the floor slab. Then there is the slope retention, which will not be cheap at 3 meters. How will the rest of the garden be? How do you want to use and maintain the rest of the garden? Freight elevator? With a ramp for driving trailers and such, the remaining property will be too small. Talk to other construction companies again. Do not completely rule out timber framing; most tend to build towers on slopes and want a floor slab or a storage basement. They earn more on 2 floors + roof than on a single-story building placed on a residential basement.
 

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