Building plan - Feedback wanted!

  • Erstellt am 2011-11-17 10:30:10

rrrrockon

2011-11-17 10:30:10
  • #1
Hello dear forum!
Attached are our first sketches for our planned construction.

I would be very, very grateful for feedback and suggestions for improvement!!!

 

Lynx1984

2011-11-17 14:39:43
  • #2
ok it is a sketch. What do you do with most sketches? Redo them with revisions! You should do that too!

What is impossible:
Living in it with more than 2 people.

Everything else will not work due to the floor plan!
Reasons:
- Hallway long and narrow without added value. There wouldn’t even be space for a mini-wardrobe in the vestibule.
- Utility room probably determines the entire layout on the ground floor. Why?
- Layout kitchen, dining, living room unhappy. How are the paths to the kitchen supposed to look around the dining table? The pseudo-wall to the living room is just in the way.
- Office might be a bit too generous (in relation to the living room)
- Living room: What kind of sofas / armchairs do you have? How are they positioned to the window and the passage area to the stairs? No matter how you turn it, it remains cramped. (Where is the TV placed?) Except for space above, you will not have a “sense of space” and this makes the room uncomfortable beyond that.
- Void space on the upper floor is pure waste without real added value.
- Always avoid slanted walls upstairs! Why always these slanted walls when there is no necessity to use them?
- Bathroom still has space for a sauna! Do you really need so much wasted space?
- Absolutely no storage space in the whole house! Not even the vacuum cleaner will find a sensible place anywhere
- Sleeping is unusable! Due to the windows and room layout, it will end with a double bed and at most one dresser! A wardrobe will feel extremely oppressive... if it even fits in the room at all.
- Children’s room: One of the few rooms with a somewhat reasonable layout. However, if a wall unit including TV is to go there, it could also get tight here again...
- The stairs are unfortunately placed badly in the house.
- Honestly... How much time do you want to spend on the balcony? If you don’t want to pay several hundred euros per hour of effective use, better leave it!
- What is the orientation? It probably won’t be a north-facing terrace, right?

Somehow this house consists almost entirely of hallways! Have it redesigned! From the surface area, standard catalog floor plans can get much more out of it!
 

rrrrockon

2011-11-17 16:11:46
  • #3
ok, it is a sketch. What do you do with most sketches? Redo them with revisions! You should do that too!

::: That is clear to me :-)!

What is impossible:
Living in it with more than 2 people.

Everything else will not work because of the floor plan!
Reasons:
- Hallway long and narrow without added value. Not even a mini wardrobe would fit in the foyer.

::: Hm - do you have ideas on how to solve this better?!

- Utility room probably determines the entire ground floor layout. Why?

::: What do you mean - I can’t quite follow that right now?

- Division of kitchen, dining, living room is unfortunate. How should the paths to the kitchen around the dining table look? The pseudo wall to the living room is just in the way.

::: Pseudo wall will disappear anyway - I forgot to remove it

- Office might be a bit too generous (in relation to the living room)

::: Ok - so pull the walls between utility room and OFFICE down = Kitchen living room will be bigger.

- Living room: What sofas / armchairs do you have? How are they positioned to the window and the passage area to the stairs? No matter how you look at it, it remains cramped. (Where is the TV?) Apart from some vertical space, you won’t feel “space” and this will make the room uncozy.

::: Sofa will be bought and can thus be adapted in size to the room. TV either on the closed/plastered wall of the stairs or above the open part - I have already seen multimedia openings where the TV can be mounted.

- Air space on the upper floor is pure waste without real added value.

::: Clearly it’s just a gimmick. Ultimately to loosen up the living space a bit and to showcase the double-story glazing!

- Avoid slanted walls on the upper floor at all costs! Why always these slanted walls when there is no need to use them?

::: Ok

- Bathroom still has space for a sauna! Do you really need so much wasted space?

::: Move the wall between children’s room and bathroom to the right - okay?
::: What size would you plan for a normal bathroom in sqm?

- No storage room in the whole house! Not even the vacuum cleaner will find a sensible place

::: It is planned under the closed staircase.

- Sleeping area is unusable! Because of the windows and layout, it will end with a double bed and a maximum of one dresser! A wardrobe will feel extremely oppressive… if it even fits in the room.

::: Change double doors to balcony in children’s and bedroom to single door and possibly swap children’s room with bedroom. Then better?

- Children's room: One of the few rooms with a somewhat sensible layout. However, if a wall unit including TV is installed, it could become tight here too...

- The staircase is unfortunately placed in the house.

::: What is unfortunate about it and where would it be better placed?

- Honestly... How much time do you want to spend on the balcony? If you don’t want to pay several hundred € for every hour of effective use, forget it!

::: I know, it’s just an optical/traditional gimmick – in our area (Upper Bavaria) 95% have balconies.

- What is the orientation? Won’t it be a north terrace, right?

::: Terrace is completely south-facing! Office/utility room/WC completely in the north.

Somehow this house consists almost entirely of hallways! Have it redesigned! Standard catalog floor plans can make better use of this space!
 

Meecrob

2011-11-17 17:25:28
  • #4
Lynx, why so aggressive? Everyone starts with first ideas sometimes.

Why should there only be room for 2 people in this house? Because the hallway is too narrow?
Why no slanted walls on the upper floor? I currently have that in my rental house. It wouldn’t be a must for me, but I also can’t find a downside.

The bathroom is too big, I agree. Of course, it depends on whether you’re making a wellness area out of it. Large shower, whirlpool tub, lounger, etc. Otherwise, half the size is enough.
Is an office needed? I would rather plan an extra room upstairs. Maybe plan a pantry. Nothing should stand around in the open kitchen and the utility room tends to get warm and humid. (I’m looking forward to my basement : )
I would at least swap utility room and office. Then you can include the storage room with the utility room. Think about what goes into the utility room if you don’t have a basement. Washing machine, laundry baskets, vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, garden stuff, tools, toilet paper, beverage crates, drying rack, and so on... We currently have 6.5 sqm and I would like twice that if there is no basement. Where is the heating? Also there?

Gallery: Why not. Sure, it wastes living space. A garden does that too. But you just feel more comfortable with such things.
Criticism: The house is, I think, too small for such architectural extravagances.
 

rrrrockon

2011-11-17 17:42:04
  • #5
::: Thank you already for your feedback - also a big thank you to Lynx for the thoughts you have put into it.

Lynx, why so aggressive? Everyone starts with first ideas.

Why should there only be space for 2 people in this house? Because the hallway is too narrow?
Why no slanted walls on the upper floor? I currently have that in my rental house. It wouldn’t be a must for me, but I also can’t find a downside.

::: I currently have that in my rental apartment too, and I quite like it – maybe that’s why I’m biased :-)!?

The bathroom is too big, I agree. Of course, it depends on whether you turn it into a wellness area. Large shower, whirlpool tub, lounge, etc. Otherwise, half the size is enough.

::: Ok – in the bathroom we basically only want a tub, double sink, toilet, and a walk-in shower. How much space should I plan for that approx.?

Is an office needed? I would rather plan an additional room upstairs.

::: You mean plan a room upstairs as an office? Ok, that’s an idea. We would have just taken the office as an “emergency room” in case suddenly there are 2 planned children instead of 1 :-)!

Maybe consider a pantry.

::: I would have used the room under the closed staircase for that! We currently have no pantry or any other storage and manage just fine without it.

Nothing should be left standing around in the open kitchen, and the utility room tends to get warm and humid. (I’m looking forward to my basement : ) I would switch the utility room and office at least.

Then you can add the storage room to the utility room. Think about what all goes into the utility room if you don’t have a basement. Washing machine, laundry baskets, vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, garden stuff, tools, toilet paper, drink crates, drying rack, and so on... We currently have 6.5 sqm and I would like double that if there is no basement. Where is the heating located? Also in there?

::: A split air heat pump would be located in there, yes. But it’s not some monster unit – I have already had a look.

Gallery: Why not. Of course, it wastes living space. So does a garden. But people just feel more comfortable with things like that.
Criticism: I think the house is too small for such architectural extravagances.

::: That will probably be the problem :-(
 

Lynx1984

2011-11-18 08:45:52
  • #6


Aggressive was not my intention. However, I think one has to clearly say here that the floor plan is a disaster and one should start again with the basic ideas (what do I want). Otherwise our dear rrrrockon will be all the more annoyed afterwards that he was not clearly pointed out the problems.

It seems to me that in this floor plan, there was an attempt to integrate many things that one has seen in new housing developments here. However, the basic dimensions of the house do not allow for that.

A question: What does the area around the house look like? Why is there not a single window on the right? Will this be a semi-detached house?
If so, I would check the floor plans of other semi-detached houses in your place!
You have 8 meters house width and 10 meters length! In most terraced houses, there are more sensible floor plans than this. Also, your "lightwell" right next to the neighbor would look totally strange!

As I said, hundreds of little things that do not fit together and follow no concept. Sometimes the house is supposed to become an architectural wonder with a gallery, huge bathroom, balcony, etc. On the other hand, it should be very functional with storage under the stairs, etc. That does not go together! Back to square one!

Best regards
 

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