Buildable according to §34 - what does it really mean?

  • Erstellt am 2015-07-02 11:03:56

Tihiddi

2015-07-03 13:21:51
  • #1
We are currently comparing seven house building companies in our area. Each company confirmed, based on their experiences, that the people in the construction and regulatory office in the rural municipalities have zero knowledge. We also have to comply with §34. We went to the municipality three times. Each time a different statement. Then we went directly to the district office. You never get anything in writing - with oral inquiries.
 

Doc.Schnaggls

2015-07-03 13:23:25
  • #2
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That can't really be true...

Then I would recommend that you arrange a consultation appointment with the responsible employee of the building authority's secretariat or, best of all, directly with the head of the building authority.

In a personal conversation, things usually work better.

Regards,

Dirk
 

nathi

2015-07-03 18:02:15
  • #3


And if the municipality also "has the balls," then there is simply a nice development plan for exactly that plot...
 

Bauexperte

2015-07-03 18:30:31
  • #4
Hello,


Comparable providers? I wouldn’t feel like doing that; I have other hobbies too


I don’t understand statements of that kind?!

I know – by feeling – every building authority from Düsseldorf to Cologne plus the surrounding area from the inside; including smaller offices. Of course, everything runs a bit more leisurely in the countryside and the spoken words don’t always reflect well on the office (although I have often encountered the latter in cities as well). On balance, however, we have always – except for one exception (a suburb of Cologne) – found a common denominator that both the office and the builder could live with.

By the way – anyone who talks about the Kölsche Klüngel, I recommend accompanying a construction project in Neuss. Compared to that, the Cologne orphans are innocent


And why didn’t you send your architect there or at least a salesperson you trust who can meet the caseworkers as an equal?

Rhenish greetings
 

DG

2015-07-05 13:03:11
  • #5
Hello ,

is right. The conversation with the building authority must be conducted by an architect or similar, because in the §34 area many things have to be considered that cannot be clarified without a basic idea of the building project by an AR. Basically, it is not a bad thing if the caseworker says that you should find out yourself – this is basically the translation for you should find an AR. To me, it also sounds like the caseworker or rather the city has no concrete requirements/ideas regarding the building site. If the AR or you then do not present some moonshot idea, a solution can be reached.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe
 

Bolzen

2015-07-05 19:27:04
  • #6
So there are quite a few half-truths in this thread.
About "clearly" and so on.

1. It is not even clarified how far the "immediate vicinity" extends, as it is not defined.
This has to be decided on a case-by-case basis, you can't just say it extends 3-4 houses.
There are rulings where building gaps up to 100 meters are considered so that the immediate vicinity is not interrupted and then continues afterwards.

2. The number of floors does not have to be the same if buildings in the immediate vicinity appear to have a different number of floors visually.
So if you want to build a 2-story building and next door there is a 1-story house with a very large volume and, for example, a higher ridge, then your chances are good.

Our building authority was extremely uncooperative and in the end it was not possible without a specialist construction law attorney.
But after all the disputes, they approved everything and we did not give in.

Regards
 

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