Baumeister86
2021-03-26 16:33:06
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Hello everyone,
I have been browsing this forum repeatedly for several weeks now, but I haven’t really found anything concrete yet.
Specifically, we are still two people (three in autumn) looking for our own property in the Berlin surrounding area. Net income is solid, equity for land is available...
Existing properties - not so easy, as hardly anything reasonable seems to be on the market (neither too old, nor a garden where you can hardly turn around – after all, that’s one of the reasons we want to “get out” of Berlin).
So the topic of house construction (single-family house) came up.
For this, we are already searching for a plot of land in the eastern Berlin area (Erkner, Rüdersdorf, etc.) or the north (Oranienburg, Bernau) or also around Potsdam/Falkensee. A good connection to the center of Berlin by public transport is important and nothing near BER (we already notice airplane noise even though we are officially not even in the flight path).
My gut feeling tells me that for a construction layman, a construction project with an architect who takes responsibility is better than working with a large company. Or in other words, as an inexperienced home builder you basically have to rely blindly on them?
But then we come to the "core of the problem": Almost all plots are sold through turnkey construction providers.
The posts here in the forum and also elsewhere in the vastness of the WWW all warn about "bondage contracts" that only allow changes against disproportionately high surcharges, and offers where it depends on the fine print.
If I understand correctly, it is always recommended with these full-service providers to involve an external appraiser/site manager before signing the contract.
However, we are still one step before that: How can you recognize the bad apples at the first appointments? What are important questions in an initial conversation?
These companies probably all know how to sell themselves, but what are the questions with which you can separate the wheat from the chaff?
And of course always welcome: What experiences have you had with general contractors in Berlin, who do you recommend? Who does their work well even without a constant additional external site manager?
Many thanks and best regards
Stephan
I have been browsing this forum repeatedly for several weeks now, but I haven’t really found anything concrete yet.
Specifically, we are still two people (three in autumn) looking for our own property in the Berlin surrounding area. Net income is solid, equity for land is available...
Existing properties - not so easy, as hardly anything reasonable seems to be on the market (neither too old, nor a garden where you can hardly turn around – after all, that’s one of the reasons we want to “get out” of Berlin).
So the topic of house construction (single-family house) came up.
For this, we are already searching for a plot of land in the eastern Berlin area (Erkner, Rüdersdorf, etc.) or the north (Oranienburg, Bernau) or also around Potsdam/Falkensee. A good connection to the center of Berlin by public transport is important and nothing near BER (we already notice airplane noise even though we are officially not even in the flight path).
My gut feeling tells me that for a construction layman, a construction project with an architect who takes responsibility is better than working with a large company. Or in other words, as an inexperienced home builder you basically have to rely blindly on them?
But then we come to the "core of the problem": Almost all plots are sold through turnkey construction providers.
The posts here in the forum and also elsewhere in the vastness of the WWW all warn about "bondage contracts" that only allow changes against disproportionately high surcharges, and offers where it depends on the fine print.
If I understand correctly, it is always recommended with these full-service providers to involve an external appraiser/site manager before signing the contract.
However, we are still one step before that: How can you recognize the bad apples at the first appointments? What are important questions in an initial conversation?
These companies probably all know how to sell themselves, but what are the questions with which you can separate the wheat from the chaff?
And of course always welcome: What experiences have you had with general contractors in Berlin, who do you recommend? Who does their work well even without a constant additional external site manager?
Many thanks and best regards
Stephan