Air-to-air heat pump vs air-to-water heat pump vs ring trench collector - differences

  • Erstellt am 2019-12-12 10:33:24

tomtom79

2020-06-08 09:30:36
  • #1
How long have you been living there and do you really have a heat pump? I believe this heat pump is not running optimally.
 

DaSch17

2020-06-08 09:40:08
  • #2


We would then rather heat the bathroom permanently to 23 degrees and the other rooms to 21 degrees. You would probably only have to take that into account in the heating load calculation.



At the moment, we still live in an apartment with a regular gas district heating system and radiators. Therefore, we will probably have to adjust.

Can anything be said about the different consumption values of the three heating systems? Logically, this depends on many factors (user behavior; insulation; size of the area to be heated, etc.) ... But there should somehow be a tendency, right?
 

Strahleman

2020-06-08 10:02:09
  • #3

The cooling function generally helps to keep the house a bit cooler during the height of summer. However, this only works if started early and combined with very good shading. You should be able to achieve a 2-3 °C difference this way.
In contrast to a brine-water heat pump, with an air-water heat pump this always means a corresponding energy expenditure.

The biggest problem, however, is the humidity. This makes the temperatures so unpleasant. And the only way to get rid of that in the house is with an air conditioner. We also initially wanted to use the passive cooling of the brine-water heat pump. Now we will probably forego that and, in coordination with our refrigeration technician (who is installing the heat pump for us), lay copper pipes for a possible later installation of an air conditioner.
 

face26

2020-06-08 10:03:36
  • #4


You can't express anything conclusive in numbers. The ground-source heat pump is definitely the most efficient. A lot depends later on planning and design. A poorly designed ground-source heat pump with poorly planned underfloor heating is less efficient than a well-planned air-to-water heat pump.

Very generally, I would say:

An air-to-air heat pump is not worthwhile at KfW55 standard (but please be careful here, the KfW55 seal alone does not provide a direct statement about the insulation standard). What you save on investment there is relatively quickly blown away by consumption. Or to put it another way, you have to have a very, very well-insulated house with a very low heating load for the air-to-air heat pump to be worthwhile despite its lower efficiency. That would be excluded for me from the start.

Ground-source or air-to-water heat pumps are a calculation exercise and a matter of conviction. Basically, the investment for a ground-source heat pump is a good deal higher. On the other hand, there is, of course, the higher efficiency and that with the current subsidies the difference becomes somewhat smaller. You might also have to contribute your own work and enjoy it, and if you use a trench collector, you might get a ground-source heat pump without extra cost.
 

DaSch17

2020-06-08 10:05:55
  • #5
Thank you! That gives me a good starting point for now...
 

Specki

2020-06-08 13:44:42
  • #6

Assuming a uniform house built to KFW55 standard and considering the air-to-water heat pump as the standard value at 100%, I estimate the following:

Air-to-water heat pump: 100%
Air-to-air heat pump: 200-300%
Brine-to-water heat pump: 75%

Note, these are not verified values; this is simply my personal assessment.
If anyone has a different opinion or verifiable numbers, I am interested.

Where do my assumptions come from?

Air-to-air heat pump: electricity heats one-to-one
Air-to-water heat pump: 1 kWh electricity delivers 3-4 kWh heat
Brine-to-water heat pump: 1 kWh electricity delivers approx. 4-5 kWh heat

What this also shows is that the smaller the overall energy consumption, the less impact the chosen heat pump has. Thus, an air-to-air heat pump (if at all) only becomes interesting if the total energy consumption for heating is very low (passive house).

When exactly something is worthwhile can only be calculated based on the exact figures of the individual property; everything else can only be a rough estimate.
 

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