Additional costs KfW55 experiences

Landlord's additional costs - but you have to pay them all anyway... (water/wastewater of course, garbage too, property tax too, building insurance too, and the rest you pay yourself anyway (heating depending on)...)

Exactly right. We even had to pay the proportional property tax.

With one difference:
In the past, during rental times, I paid €170/month as an advance for heating.
Then between €500 - €800 - once even €1700 - heating back payment per year.
Oil heating and supposedly everything modern and super insulated. Well.

Added to that was the - hard to quantify - electricity consumption for the instant water heater brand "older, but paid for."

The heating costs of this house, comparable in size to the WF, are significantly lower and you can cover many other costs from it as well - like you say, also costs that occur anyway.

In our comparatively small (50 sqm) temporary apartment during the house construction, the installment for the night storage heaters was €80/month. After a year of not overheating and sitting in full warmth, the additional charge came, €1680. Even the landlord (it was his first rental) was surprised... the new instant water heater at least had a meaningful display, so hot water usage was determinable here, €80/month. But that was household electricity and had nothing to do with heating. The heating energy demand of the basement-level temporary apartment without insulated floor slab was really impressive (it still is, the apartment is still there).

Now we don’t consume more or less, don’t heat differently, don’t shower differently, but the amounts for heating and hot water are just different, lower in the house now.

Ultimately, living always costs relatively a lot of money.....

Regards
Thorsten

GEZ bum... never heard of it but considered it good ...so the expression itself.....not the institution as such

He means me from the front side.

With one difference:
In the past, during rental times, I paid 170,-/month in advance for heating.
Then I had additional payments for heating between 500 - 800 - once even 1700 - per year.
Oil heating and supposedly everything modern and super insulated. Well.

....

but you also have a really extreme negative example here. We previously lived for 1 year in a fully renovated terraced house and had heating costs including hot water of 50€ per month. And that although the determined consumption value according to the energy certificate was 90, twice as high as our current one with 44.2 kwh/(a*m²). But there we didn’t heat some rooms at all and others never got warm (in the big bathroom there was only a towel heater as a room warmer (heh heh...)). Now it is 20-22°C everywhere in the house and we will roughly end up with a consumption of 50€ per month. (I write down the meter readings for gas, water, and electricity every few weeks – I printed out an Excel list for this and stuck it to the electrical fuse box)

Hi Payday,

thanks for the clarification - I didn’t understand the connection.

The example was actually a part of my and my wife’s life for 7 years.
Of course, we only realized afterwards: We were tricked with the costs when signing the lease. The apartment had an enormous consumption.....

Regarding the meter readings: I do it similar to you, I read once a month and enter the values into a table, just to keep track.

Best regards

Thorsten

Such a table is worth its weight in gold at some point, and you always have an overview of how well you are actually doing with your prepayments and whether large additional payments are looming and/or if you need to save somewhere or something similar. For example, I now know that our water consumption corresponds quite exactly to what we prepay. It is more difficult to recognize this with gas because we moved in on November 1st and have only had to heat so far. The theoretical 600 euros/year we have almost burned through two-thirds of in the last 5 months.