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2020-12-29 00:59:15
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So, the corona lockdown and the professional "home stretch" also have their good sides:
I have two small gem plots that are finally supposed to be built on (one for ourselves, one for the eldest son – here is the first one). We negotiated with the plot for a long time, also with an architect (hmm), and I, being slightly indecisive, am losing the clear overview in the face of alternatives: which basic form fits best to the plot and to us?
In a first step, it would be great to get help from you. Then next, the detailed planning from us.
Size of the plot: 500m2, SW location, 19.5 (street) x 25.5; Berlin, very good location.
Very green interior area to the west, not buildable. Quiet street.
2 challenges:
Front garden with 7.5 meters very large,
Huge spruce of 25-30m height almost directly on the western plot boundary at the neighbor in the W/N corner.
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.25
Plot ratio: none, max 2 floors plus roof
Building window, building line and boundary: 7.5m to be kept free towards the street, no parking space there either; 3m to the 3 neighbors
Number of parking spaces
Number of floors: max 2 floors plus roof
Roof shape: Building authority considers flat roofs undesirable, but in the area, such a roof was approved.
Further requirements: "to blend in with the surroundings"
Requirements of the builders:
Style, roof shape, building type: modern, but above all coherent and valuable.
Basement, floors: Basement technically difficult due to access and plot size, all basements in the area, old villas, basement usually about 1 meter above ground, from our point of view inappropriate for such a small plot due to stairs to the small garden,
2 floors plus roof
Number of people, age: 3: F/M/K, 60/51/12, F works from home
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: upper floor 3 rooms, a separate study room on ground/upper floor conceivable but not mandatory. Steam sauna.
Office: family use or home office? Home office father
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, child frequently
Open or closed architecture: rather open, but more W and E as a unit than E and K (at the dining table also homework, games, reading newspaper etc.)
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: if it fits, but the dining table is essentially the family center, even without food, so a view of frying pans is not necessarily desirable.
Number of dining seats: 5
Fireplace: rather yes, but: it was pointless in the last house, but a dream abroad in France.
Music/stereo wall: F music lover
Balcony, roof terrace: rather yes
Garage, carport: at least carport on the right side (pardon: north)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
Preferably no "Ritter-Sport house" or "Instead villa". But if conventional is better, also okay.
Preliminary house plans
I am aware that we probably need an architect, and the draftsmen of a construction company will not suffice. However, we have not found one yet (one who can plan biocompatible execution, yes).
Who are the planners from:
One from an architect, but with numerous violations of the development plan promises such as fitness studio in the basement with floor-to-ceiling excavations up to the neighbor's limit.
-Planner from a construction company
-Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
There is a first "draft" of a ground floor and upper floor for each, knowing that the word draft is somewhat exaggerated.
In random order:
Draft 4 (tilted): the adaptation to the sun, the opening of the room from small at the entrance to large in the living room, the transitions, the flow of rooms kitchen-dining-living room, the possibilities of the terrace all around dining/living room, great unconventional children's room with terrace
Draft 3: always works with L-shape of kitchen-dining-living, lots of garden to the west, narrow side towards the southeast neighbor
Draft 2 (angle): the partly covered outdoor area. The tidy upper floor. The upper floor terrace.
Draft 1 ("barn"): the aesthetic exterior. Clear structure.
What do you dislike? Why?
D4: Kitchen too subordinate? Large living room needs subdivision... upstairs attractive-difficult
D3: No structuring of the garden/terrace not arising from/forming with the house/plot
D2: inside on ground floor too fragmented? Kitchen not separated enough from dining table? Upper floor not so easy to design because of angle.
D1 Barn: little garden to the west.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
We have no price limit, it should be appropriate to the (small) but valuable plot. I expect "all-in" about 700k euros.
Preferred heating technology: geothermal energy
If you have to waive, on which details/extensions
-you can forgo: basement,
-you cannot forgo: light, ceiling height ground floor 3m, view of nature, absolutely flawless biocompatible execution (minimized pollutants).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Which of the basic concepts should we pursue further regarding THIS plot? Or are the options still too many so that we first have to decide what our favorite is?
Regarding teenager: rather smaller ground and upper floor and roof expanded?

I have two small gem plots that are finally supposed to be built on (one for ourselves, one for the eldest son – here is the first one). We negotiated with the plot for a long time, also with an architect (hmm), and I, being slightly indecisive, am losing the clear overview in the face of alternatives: which basic form fits best to the plot and to us?
In a first step, it would be great to get help from you. Then next, the detailed planning from us.
Size of the plot: 500m2, SW location, 19.5 (street) x 25.5; Berlin, very good location.
Very green interior area to the west, not buildable. Quiet street.
2 challenges:
Front garden with 7.5 meters very large,
Huge spruce of 25-30m height almost directly on the western plot boundary at the neighbor in the W/N corner.
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.25
Plot ratio: none, max 2 floors plus roof
Building window, building line and boundary: 7.5m to be kept free towards the street, no parking space there either; 3m to the 3 neighbors
Number of parking spaces
Number of floors: max 2 floors plus roof
Roof shape: Building authority considers flat roofs undesirable, but in the area, such a roof was approved.
Further requirements: "to blend in with the surroundings"
Requirements of the builders:
Style, roof shape, building type: modern, but above all coherent and valuable.
Basement, floors: Basement technically difficult due to access and plot size, all basements in the area, old villas, basement usually about 1 meter above ground, from our point of view inappropriate for such a small plot due to stairs to the small garden,
2 floors plus roof
Number of people, age: 3: F/M/K, 60/51/12, F works from home
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: upper floor 3 rooms, a separate study room on ground/upper floor conceivable but not mandatory. Steam sauna.
Office: family use or home office? Home office father
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, child frequently
Open or closed architecture: rather open, but more W and E as a unit than E and K (at the dining table also homework, games, reading newspaper etc.)
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: if it fits, but the dining table is essentially the family center, even without food, so a view of frying pans is not necessarily desirable.
Number of dining seats: 5
Fireplace: rather yes, but: it was pointless in the last house, but a dream abroad in France.
Music/stereo wall: F music lover
Balcony, roof terrace: rather yes
Garage, carport: at least carport on the right side (pardon: north)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
Preferably no "Ritter-Sport house" or "Instead villa". But if conventional is better, also okay.
Preliminary house plans
I am aware that we probably need an architect, and the draftsmen of a construction company will not suffice. However, we have not found one yet (one who can plan biocompatible execution, yes).
Who are the planners from:
One from an architect, but with numerous violations of the development plan promises such as fitness studio in the basement with floor-to-ceiling excavations up to the neighbor's limit.
-Planner from a construction company
-Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
There is a first "draft" of a ground floor and upper floor for each, knowing that the word draft is somewhat exaggerated.
In random order:
Draft 4 (tilted): the adaptation to the sun, the opening of the room from small at the entrance to large in the living room, the transitions, the flow of rooms kitchen-dining-living room, the possibilities of the terrace all around dining/living room, great unconventional children's room with terrace
Draft 3: always works with L-shape of kitchen-dining-living, lots of garden to the west, narrow side towards the southeast neighbor
Draft 2 (angle): the partly covered outdoor area. The tidy upper floor. The upper floor terrace.
Draft 1 ("barn"): the aesthetic exterior. Clear structure.
What do you dislike? Why?
D4: Kitchen too subordinate? Large living room needs subdivision... upstairs attractive-difficult
D3: No structuring of the garden/terrace not arising from/forming with the house/plot
D2: inside on ground floor too fragmented? Kitchen not separated enough from dining table? Upper floor not so easy to design because of angle.
D1 Barn: little garden to the west.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
We have no price limit, it should be appropriate to the (small) but valuable plot. I expect "all-in" about 700k euros.
Preferred heating technology: geothermal energy
If you have to waive, on which details/extensions
-you can forgo: basement,
-you cannot forgo: light, ceiling height ground floor 3m, view of nature, absolutely flawless biocompatible execution (minimized pollutants).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Which of the basic concepts should we pursue further regarding THIS plot? Or are the options still too many so that we first have to decide what our favorite is?
Regarding teenager: rather smaller ground and upper floor and roof expanded?