Window offer evaluation - Is it okay like this?

  • Erstellt am 2018-10-12 14:49:36

Dr Hix

2018-10-14 12:24:59
  • #1


Please don't misunderstand me, I didn't mean to imply that your point of view is "not correct." I simply understood your post as saying that K-windows are (technically) less durable and therefore the investment in the long run is higher despite the initial savings. I contrasted that with my "risk analysis."

As far as the question of aesthetics or their wear is concerned, aluminum certainly has the edge. Whether it's worth the extra cost is, of course, an individual decision.
 

11ant

2018-10-14 19:29:13
  • #2
Which, in my opinion, is also "accurate" (since a collapse is not imminent), and is thus comprehensible. My other result comes from a different "calculation": with aluminum, I expect the mainly visually motivated replacement time after forty years, with plastic after fifteen. From this standpoint, I consider it an outrageous audacity to charge only twenty percent less for an almost three times shorter replacement cycle.

A second major difference between mine and the majority opinion is that I do not assume the wishful thinking that a house can last forever and even be inherited. One can face the alternative of moving or career stagnation; or a divorce rearranges the finances, or something similar. Therefore, I always consider the value of a house from the perspective of being able to put it on the market at any time. And there, "cheap"-looking windows are just as effective anti-homestaging as tiles that are high-quality but unfortunately 80s style.

Aluminum and plastic windows address different buyer types with different definitions of "price awareness." Hardly any manufacturer will install a "premium" sliding mechanism in an "economy" product—it's easiest to save on invisible parts. Therefore, I also recommend aluminum for large and heavy elements (you can't go wrong with the guest WC window) to those builders who otherwise prefer the price-awareness definition of the plastic faction.

The visual impression of quality ultimately carries very different weight depending on whether one is talking about an architect-designed "building" house or a one-and-a-half-story "flair." With a Dacia, I don't think about leather seats either :-)
 

jan76

2018-10-14 19:41:06
  • #3


Hmm, my plastic windows actually look pretty good after almost 30 years. That also matches estimates found on the internet. I agree with you on 40 years for aluminum, but only 15 years for plastic? I really don't believe that....
 

dertill

2018-10-14 22:36:05
  • #4
Who actually says that only "premium" fittings and other small parts are used in aluminum lift-and-slide doors? Just because the frame material is different, does that mean no manufacturer has technically clueless or at least unscrupulous business managers in the executive suite? In my experience (and I see a lot of windows due to my profession), there are all kinds of models with all materials. Recently, without a lighter I would not have believed the date stamp of '92 on the glass, the lift-and-slide door made of plastic looked so like new. But I have hardly come across 15-year-old plastic windows that I would have replaced. And if so, it was rather because of damage caused by external factors.
 

Dr Hix

2018-10-15 00:10:18
  • #5


There is certainly some truth to that. The same applies to pairings such as "furniture store and carpenter," "department store fashion and tailor," "discount retailer and organic farm," or "laminate and oak parquet." I can understand the underlying thought process, but I also consider it purely academic. What is the essence of this (fundamentally correct) consideration? Better to buy nothing at all if you cannot afford the premium product? What if you will never be able to afford it?

Especially when building a house, you are constantly faced with such decisions. ETICS or rather a ventilated facade? Roofing with concrete roof tiles or rather with slate? Stringer or cantilevered staircase? Air or brine heat pump? Support column in the room or self-supporting structure? Woodchip wallpaper or stucco on the ceiling? Etc., etc.

Wouldn’t it be much more purposeful to consider where to best spend a generally limited budget spectacularly, rather than financially overextending oneself over window profiles that take up about ~4% of the facade’s visible area? Especially against the background of better marketability, focusing on window profiles seems too shortsighted to me, as long as you do not have the necessary cash to consistently pursue this standard... and who does?

One could also say, "The buyer addressed by aluminum windows does not leave their demands at the front door." So if you are not financially able to fulfill these preferences in the rest of the house, you don’t even need to try with the windows, right?
 

11ant

2018-10-15 13:25:47
  • #6
In the high-price segment, more expensive lawyers are also complained about ;-) And above all, I said it the other way around: whoever targets bargain buyers wants to be able to offer low prices and certainly does not install top quality in invisible parts, because who would thank them for that?

And vice versa. So Jette not with plastic and Flair not with aluminum ;-)

And don’t forget: you can also mix the materials, for example only front door and patio door made of aluminum. Aluminum is also cheaper than ordering outrageously expensive blinds additionally just to protect the foil.

Consistency is unfortunately a foreign word in German new building areas. Not only do the king size sectional doors, loudly rattled by a panting cheap motor, expose to the mocking observer a worn-out Mondeo station wagon. But even more frequently: Bauhaus Tuscany with fir-green muntin windows and terracotta imitation Halloween decorations.
 

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