What do you think of the payment plan? Opinions and experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2018-10-23 20:31:59

EdStark

2018-10-24 12:45:25
  • #1

Well, what does trap mean. It’s not that clear. On the other hand, you can understand the BU. If an outlet is crooked, I simply must not withhold payment to the electrical contractor. That is fair.
Are there really BUs that have this clause removed?

In the Construction Code it is actually clearly regulated: "If the costs of remedying a defect amount to at least 10% of the agreed remuneration, then a non-insignificant defect pursuant to § 640 para. 1 sentence 2 of the Construction Code is present, so that the client is entitled to refuse acceptance of the work. If the defect remedy costs amount to at least 10% of the agreed remuneration, this constitutes a not insignificant breach of duty by the contractor, so that the client's withdrawal from the contract is not excluded pursuant to § 323 para. 5 sentence 2 of the Construction Code."
 

Mottenhausen

2018-10-24 13:00:48
  • #2


No, but proportionally. Crooked socket = €10 retention.
 

Bookstar

2018-10-24 13:02:26
  • #3

That's not okay at all. With just the screed, everything else is still missing. No heating, no electrical work except for a few cables, no exterior plaster, no painting, no floors, no doors, no front door... nothing!

You can easily add another 150,000 euros, and you would have paid everything except for 3%. You realize that yourself, right? Not good!
 

Alex85

2018-10-24 13:10:50
  • #4
Flooring and painting are usually not included in the scope of services of a general contractor for "turnkey" projects. But yes, the fine installation of electrical systems, sanitary fixtures, possibly heat pumps, etc., only comes afterward. 97% at this stage is a joke. I would estimate 75% as appropriate. But as I said, in my opinion, the overpayment occurs already at the shell construction stage, so much earlier. My shell construction costs about 20% of the construction volume, just for comparison. Earthworks 2-3% and fees for engineers about 3-4% at this point.
 

Bookstar

2018-10-24 15:12:46
  • #5
Yes, an overpayment occurs here earlier. But a shell construction without a roof can already account for 40% of the total costs, that was the case for us and is not unusual (with basement and garage for us [170,000]).
 

Alex85

2018-10-24 17:02:59
  • #6
Sure, depending on the object. Those who build monolithically will also have a larger share of the shell construction.
 

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