Underfloor heating Yes or No?

That’s clear, it doesn’t work without heating, that wouldn’t be healthy for the house either. I certainly don’t want to come home to a cold house in the dead of winter when I get off work around 6 p.m. and then have to start a fire in the stove.

But I don’t want it to be 21 degrees either, I prefer to stay around 18 degrees. There are also supposedly people/women who already turn on the heating now and then I would definitely heat a bit more with a stove. When it really gets cold, from December to February, of course the heating is also turned on. So that’s roughly 3 months or 25% of the year.

25% of the year costs 8,000€ more at acquisition. I have to admit, though, that I’m increasingly leaning towards underfloor heating, also because you have better options for placing furniture and it’s probably more the standard nowadays to install underfloor heating. Still, the 8,000€ hits me hard. I find that even more excessive than a second garage door for an additional 2,000€.

Hello,

I have been following the discussion here with a smile for a while. First of all, I would like to know what I am supposed to understand by a "renowned" property developer? Because if he were actually renowned, underfloor heating these days would not be a point of discussion for him; it would be included as standard.

Secondly, I would be interested in the total price for the basemented semi-detached house; I am sure that knowing the price would allow conclusions about the standard of the provider, as well as an understanding of the additional cost of 8,000 EUR.

There are also people/women who already turn on the heating now

Me; because I really have no desire to walk around in my own four walls with a thick sweater on

When it really gets cold, from December to February, of course the heating is turned on. So that's roughly 3 months or 25% of the year.

Your 25% "would have measured the foot," as we Rhinelanders say in dialect, should mean the costs incurred for operating the heating. You forget in your calculation that the building fabric is completely cooled down with this behavior and consequently consumes more energy when turned on than a continuously running system or your temporarily fired stove can bridge.

Nevertheless, the 8,000€ annoys me. I find that even more exaggerated than a second garage door for an additional 2,000€.

What kind of garage door is that supposed to be?

Rhenish regards

First of all, I am an absolute layman even though I completed a craft apprenticeship over 10 years ago.

The basement costs an additional €25,000 and has a floor area of about 56m2 made of waterproof concrete, thermal insulation, and 2 windows. Whether that is expensive or cheap, good or bad, I cannot assess.

I concluded that the developer is reputable because he has been on the market for decades and has already built and is still building several new development areas in Duisburg, Dinslaken, and Oberhausen. The cities should be familiar to you since you come from NRW. But I can only judge that as a layman.

Regarding heating, I have 18 degrees in the living room and sit here in a T-shirt; if it gets a bit cold, I put on a sweater, but that is all a matter of taste.

I ordered an oversized prefabricated garage. One part will be 6 meters with a garage door, and the second part 3 meters because supposedly 9 meters is the maximum length allowed by law. The garage costs about €12,000 including paving work and excluding electricity and water, which I found reasonable. A second standard garage up-and-over door is now said to cost about €2,000 extra, no idea why that is, but that is just too much for a stupid corrugated iron door. But it’s no big deal; I will leave it out and just take a door at the back.

If I assume continuous heating behavior, which will probably happen sooner or later anyway, does underfloor heating save so much money compared to radiators that the €8,000 additional cost is worth it?

I admit I’m increasingly leaning towards underfloor heating.

The basement costs an additional €25,000 and has a floor area of about 56cm2 made of WU concrete, thermal insulation, and 2 windows. I can't judge whether that's expensive or cheap, good or bad.

I ordered an oversized prefabricated garage. One part will be 6 meters long with a garage door, and the second part 3 meters because supposedly 9 meters is the maximum length legally allowed. The garage costs about €12,000 including paving work and excluding electricity and water, which I found reasonable. A second plain garage swing door is now supposed to cost about €2,000 extra, no idea why that is, but that is simply too much for a stupid corrugated metal door. But it's no big deal, I'll leave it out and just take a door at the back.

Is there a ground survey? €25,000 sounds low at first. Whether the garage is worth the price can only be said by a comparative offer. Otherwise, it’s groping in the dark. To me, it sounds as if no comparison was made. Otherwise, one would know that underfloor heating would actually be standard.

Good evening,

first of all, the language of the internet is "du" (informal you)

The basement costs an additional €25,000 and has a floor area of about 56m2 made of waterproof concrete, thermal insulation, and 2 windows. Whether that is expensive or cheap, good or bad, I cannot judge.

€25,000 for a basement? - no way and not entirely made of waterproof concrete; at most, the sandwich parts are made of wateruneathrough concrete.

I concluded that the developer is reputable because he has been on the market for decades and has already built and is still building several new development areas in Duisburg, Dinslaken, and Oberhausen. The cities should mean something to you since you come from NRW. But I can only judge this as a layperson.

There are many providers who offer houses for supposedly little money. Only after a detailed review of the documents does it become clear that a lot is not included in the offer price until a habitable house is handed over.

I ordered an extra-long prefabricated garage. One part will be 6 meters with a garage door and the second part 3 meters because allegedly 9 meters is the longest legally allowed. The garage costs about €12,000 including paving work and excluding electricity and water, which I found reasonable.

A prefabricated garage of this size costs about €12,000 including an electric sectional door. No paving work is necessary, only 3 strip foundations.

A second normal garage swing door is now supposed to cost about €2,000 extra, no idea why this is, but that is simply too much for a stupid corrugated metal door. But it's no big deal, I'll leave it out and just take a door at the back.

Not even an electric sectional door costs that much.

Rhine greetings

First of all, I compared and searched for easily 2 years.
But it’s all about location, location, and location again, and I would have paid much more to get exactly the spot where the house is being built now.

Underfloor heating might be standard for some, but there are plenty of BTs where underfloor heating is not standard. That’s actually not even up for debate, because I wanted to have a house exactly at this location. It’s more about whether you accept the €8,400 surcharge or not. By the way, the €8,400 is only for the ground floor; each additional floor would cost another €1,000 surcharge. Every room then has individual control.

The garage is a plain prefab garage, which falls within the price range of most providers, I already checked that.

The floor is described in the contract. I can’t reproduce it exactly now, but the fact is the notary explained everything to me in a way I understand.

Whether the basement is entirely made of WU concrete or built like a sandwich, what am I supposed to do with that as a layman? The contract states “basement made of WU concrete.”

The paving work by the garage referred to the driveway in front of the garage. This is included in the price of €12,000. If you don’t order a garage, you also don’t get a paved driveway.

Everything basic is included in the offer price and there is also a fixed-price guarantee. Of course, if you want things that require an extra charge, you pay extra, and then you really get charged a lot. But the house could also be built without a garage, basement, and underfloor heating, and then everything else that comes up, like complete bathrooms, etc., would naturally be included as standard bathrooms. If I didn’t want any extras or anything special, then I would pay exactly the price stated in the offer.

I don’t even find the extras like the garage or, for example, electric shutters on the ground floor for €2,500 or the basement, etc., all that expensive—only the underfloor heating for €8,400 per floor is totally out of proportion.

For me, the question still is whether 1. to leave out the underfloor heating (by the way, heating is by district heating), 2. underfloor heating only on the ground floor for €8,400 and normal radiators without surcharge in the basement, first floor, and converted attic, or 3. underfloor heating on the ground floor, first floor, and attic for €10,400 and definitely radiators remain in the basement.

Best regards, Roland