The Old Suffering - Turnkey/Individual Contract

  • Erstellt am 2014-11-06 09:52:00

Bauherren2014

2014-11-11 11:39:01
  • #1


No question, I absolutely agree with you.
That is also the reason why I actually always quite like reading and writing here.

The problem I see in this case is that the original poster and other readers could become even more unsettled about what is best for them. Because the jack of all trades simply doesn't exist. Every approach has its advantages and disadvantages, and it is up to oneself to find out which path one wants to take.
 

Bauexperte

2014-11-11 12:03:42
  • #2
Hello,

You probably don’t need to worry much about that, in my opinion. Any halfway reasonable person will have enough sense/life experience to distinguish factual arguments from emotional posts; usually, every question here receives more than one answer.

And – honestly? If someone can’t do that, in my view they shouldn’t even try building a house; especially not managing individual trades themselves.

Someone once told me: "You can’t save everyone" – admittedly it took me a while, but eventually I understood that too. That’s why my above statement may come across as brutal/cold to you – it’s pure self-protection. The fact is, there are incorrigible people – you find those mostly in forums, by the way, when the proverbial horse has already bolted; BEFORE that it didn’t work. Another fact is that there are people who – regardless of the execution – only look at the price in the bottom right and then – in my view – become the rightful prey of their own stupidity. The result is that anyone with common sense or who recognizes they need to secure external help won’t fall flat on their face during a house building project; can properly classify posts in forums like this. Also recognizes whether an architect or a general contractor/trade contractor is the right choice.

Foolish greetings
 

ypg

2014-11-11 12:52:03
  • #3


That is exactly what I want to convey.
The fact is that with a GU you are "assigned" the craftsmen. That gives a certain degree of security to construction laymen. A client who builds with a freelance architect can fall on their face just as much as a client who builds with a GU. After all, the same craftsmen work for both GUs and architects. Nevertheless, I can imagine that a craftsman, with a "big contract" for an architect, advises his employees to deliver particularly good performances. For that, the work for a GU must basically be carried out satisfactorily, since the client ensures the basic orders of the company.



For some, I also think for klblb, the status of architect-built houses applies. I can understand that when a bad GU with an unmotivated architect is compared to a creative freelance architect. Unfortunately, one must also say that this kind of architect is proportionally in the minority. I know (not only from our new housing development) houses from architects that offer less quality of life than standard houses from a GU. Of course, one does not know to what extent the clients' wishes were taken into account.
But I also personally know architects whose own homes did not even come from their ultimate designs.
However, the available capital also plays a big role in that.

By the way, construction troubles with craftsmen occur equally with GUs as with architect builds – from what I gather here in my small new building environment.

A tip for those who build with a GU (and also with a freelance architect): seek contact with the craftsmen on site. Friendliness and respect are better received than patronizing behavior and bossy airs. This way, as a GU builder, you also gain favor for advice and tips, and small extras are naturally carried out.
Those who don’t have the time (after all, that’s also a reason for turnkey GU construction) can still be sure that the house will be built as planned.

And not to forget: a GU also has an architect!

Basically, when exchanging opinions, one should not view a situation only from their own perspective, but rather look from above or outside and view the situation objectively.

Best regards, Yvonne
 

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