Smallest possible "mini-house" for residence

2022-04-08 15:06:51

Since you are our fact checker here, why don't you copy the legal text you have in mind here? Which paragraph in the Federal Registration Act is that supposed to be?

Too lazy to check yourself? Does everything have to be spoon-fed to you, who claims to be so well informed?

2022-04-08 15:09:50

Here you go.

Federal Registration Act (BMG)
§ 20 Definition of the dwelling

A dwelling within the meaning of this Act is any enclosed space that is used for living or sleeping. Accommodation on board a naval ship is also considered a dwelling. Caravans and houseboats are only to be regarded as dwellings if they are not moved or only occasionally moved.

This is then in connection with § 17
(1) Anyone who takes up residence in a dwelling must register with the registration authority within two weeks after moving in.
(2) Anyone who moves out of a dwelling and does not take up a new dwelling within the country must deregister with the registration authority within two weeks after moving out. Deregistration is possible at the earliest one week before moving out; the update of the registration register takes place as of the date of moving out.

==> Consequently, there is no possibility of registration in the registration register if no dwelling is taken up. Incidentally, this is also explicitly stated on the websites of many registration authorities.

2022-04-08 15:16:32

Which paragraph in the Federal Registration Act is that supposed to be?

In another thread, you had offered to disclose your contact details. I would now like to make use of that, thank you. This certainly has nothing to do with a violation of the BMG, I promise.

2022-04-08 16:17:52

So a house is needed - with all the associated inconveniences such as construction, development, etc.

That was the original statement from the fact checker user200. The word "house" is found neither in §17 nor in §20. Also nothing about development, etc.

An apartment within the meaning of the law is any enclosed space, it says there. That can be a shed, a barn, a garage, or a chicken coop. Or even a houseboat. So the thread opener buys a small sailing yacht, digs a garden pond, and launches the yacht there. Then he can live inside. Also in the registration law sense. By the way, someone actually did that in Bavaria.

Wasn't the corresponding picture even published here in the forum? I'm not sure about that.

And what requirements an enclosed space must meet is not stated in the law. So there are no requirements for it.
One doesn’t have to accept that the employees of the residents’ registration offices always interpret it conveniently for themselves. They also pass on data without the consent of the persons concerned just as easily.

Anyway. Basically, a porta-potty is enough for a registration address.

2022-04-08 16:53:00

It is actually not a "house that needs to be torn down." But at least a second permanent mobile home. At least as far as I understand it as a layperson. Any more detailed information would in any case be legal advice.

As soon as a permanent mobile home is placed there, it is classified as a building and requires a building permit. And this is usually not granted, as the Energy Saving Ordinance/Building Energy Act is not fulfilled, and the "building" probably does not fit into the local architectural style either.

2022-04-08 16:58:34

So a house is needed - with all the inconveniences associated with it, such as house construction, development, etc.

That was the original statement from the fact checker Benutzer200. The word "house" is found neither in §17 nor in §20. Also nothing about development, etc.

An apartment within the meaning of the law is any enclosed space, it says there. It can be a shed, a barn, a garage, or a chicken coop. Or also a houseboat. So the thread starter buys a small sailing yacht, digs a garden pond, and puts the yacht in the water there. Then he can live inside. Also in the sense of registration law. By the way, someone in Bavaria actually did that.

Wasn't the corresponding picture even published here in the forum? I'm not sure about that.

And what requirements an enclosed space must have is not stated in the law. So there are no requirements regarding it. One does not have to accept that the employees of the resident registration offices always interpret it to suit themselves. They also just as easily provide the data without the consent of the affected persons.

Anyway. Basically, a portable toilet is enough for a registration address.

That is only half the truth. It is any enclosed space that is used for living or sleeping. A stable is usually not included. Everything else can be looked up in the corresponding commentary literature.

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