Alex85
2017-02-18 15:15:52
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If you have a photovoltaic system, it may require its own meter (e.g. at the latest when you want to feed electricity into the grid (at least that was the case with my parents-in-law))
No, that does not have to be the case. You use bidirectional meters (please do not confuse with dual-tariff meters (HT/NT)). Cheaper to maintain because there is only one and cheaper to purchase because they require less space in the panel. These are supplemented with additional intermediate meters to measure self-consumption, heat pump consumption, etc. These things only cost 20-30€, are not calibrated, not from the power supplier, and are about the size of a fuse.
- for the air-to-water heat pump, you may need a separate meter again if you want to take advantage of a heat pump tariff from an electricity provider
Yes, correct. For extra heat pump electricity, you need a separate meter because household electricity should not be measured through it. If you have a photovoltaic system, however, this can be tricky or leads to extra effort because the heat pump then may not benefit from the electricity produced by the photovoltaic system (which can be a crucial aspect of the profitability of the photovoltaic system).
In the joint measurement, the heating electricity is measured together with the household electricity. In the separate measurement, the electricity consumption for heating is recorded independently from household electricity via a separate dual-tariff meter.
Stop, dual-tariff meter. That is old thinking from the days of night storage heaters and often nonsense for heat pumps. Air-to-water heat pumps ideally run as little as possible at night, preferably not at all! Is this really the product for a heat pump you are looking at? Locally, both exist: dual-tariff meters for night storage heaters and single-tariff meters for heat pumps. Dual-tariff meters are usually more expensive than single-tariff meters and greatly restrict the choice of electricity suppliers (!!). Just try a comparison portal of your choice and specify that you have a dual-tariff meter (if the portal even allows this). This usually binds you to the local electricity supplier, which in my experience, besides reducing electricity demand, is the most important aspect of saving electricity costs – moving away from the local supplier!
- either we have ONE dual-tariff meter (dual = HT and NT), where we then have different prices for HT and NT (because it is assumed that most household electricity is used during HT and at night in NT basically only the heating is consuming)
- or two separate meters where the air-to-water heat pump can run all day at the cheaper rate (i.e., its own dual-tariff meter for the air-to-water heat pump)
- the household electricity must then be booked to a separate tariff
Or everything through one meter, completely normal, with free supplier choice. Maximally flexible in supplier choice, no basic fee for a second meter and/or increased fee for dual-tariff meters, no need for space in the panel.
Otherwise, let’s say you need 18,000 kWh of heat!.
Rather half that, if even. Unless you have 400 sqm of heated space or 20 people shower daily.
Now we would have to know how much the air-to-water heat pump consumes only at night. Let’s say, to approximate this, the air-to-water heat pump consumes 50% of the electricity at night (= NT) and the other 50% during the day (= HT).
This assumption is the biggest flaw in your calculation as it is based on incorrect premises. As already mentioned above, the air-to-water heat pump consumes as little electricity as possible at night or only marginally because it is most uneconomical at night due to the low outside temperature! It is therefore set to run during the day. Night operation is even more nonsensical if a photovoltaic system is present. The air-to-water heat pump should ideally be set (or dynamically controlled) to heat when the photovoltaic system is producing a lot of electricity in order to use this in self-consumption (or in other words: store it in the house in the form of heat).
Costs and installation of an electricity meter are between 50 and 100€ each according to a short Google search (pay attention to the topic of smart meters, I'm not very familiar with this here).
Your electrician will want more for that. The switch cabinet also needs appropriate space; these things are not exactly cheap.