Single-family house ~130sqm: balancing rooms

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WilderSueden

2021-01-25 19:39:04
  • #1
Time for a little update. We have actually decided to move the study upstairs. We only realized how good the solution from was when we compared it with the first solution with the "impulse". We will definitely have to revise that upstairs at the next appointment. Downstairs, we initially used a bit less glass because the large windows would otherwise only look at the back of the sofas. We also removed the wall in the utility room and recessed the door to the bathroom. The next step inside for us now would be to find a kitchen builder and discuss what the kitchen will look like and how much space it is allowed/should take. Due to the large open space, we can now make it almost arbitrarily large. The difficulty with the kitchen topic is definitely that we often cook separately.

Currently, we are planning the buildings on the property. For that, we received a plan of the property at 1:100 scale and are trying to place the house and the other things. The current problem is the trailer, which can be parked quite well in the east but is hard to get to if you build a garage in front of it. The carport we planned next to it for the second car is theoretically passable but rather difficult due to its size. The parking spaces themselves are relatively predetermined by the driveway, and we would prefer not to place them on the south side because they would then come out in front of the living room. One consideration was to make the garage pass-through ( ) or only have one carport for both cars. Alternatively, there is the idea of placing the trailer not behind the garage but next to the driveway directly on the south boundary (see attachment)
 

WilderSueden

2021-01-26 21:20:22
  • #2
Played around a bit again tonight. I'm not as happy with the garden house variant in the northeast as I was at the beginning. The garden house either pushes the main building south or west, where we actually wanted to leave a lot of garden. Somehow the tail is wagging the dog here... Overall, it's also quite cramped back there and quite sensitive to measurement errors. I'm less worried about the house, but if the client measures imprecisely, the garden house could end up half a meter on the neighbor's property.

One consideration now was to place the house first with minimal distance to the northeast and then put the garden house to the south next to the driveway. This would have the big advantage that we could place the garage and garden house later in peace and not have any problem with a half meter shift. The carport would also get significantly more distance from the house, making the living room feel more spacious. The disadvantage would be that the garden house is now in front of the living room, although still 7 meters away. Also, regarding boundary development, this doesn't exploit everything that's possible, so one could maybe add another meter to the garage and park the bikes there. (attached)

Another idea was to put the garden house in a completely different corner, either northwest or southwest. The downside would be that as a storage place for bikes it is rather impractical if you have to go through the whole garden once. And the necessary connections for the garden house (electricity, rainwater to the cistern) would also be relatively long.
 

ypg

2021-01-26 21:57:37
  • #3
hm... nice that you recognize this. Although it's hard to discern any dimensions with your site plan at all... why don't you also use graph paper to get an idea of the size of the property? As it looks, this is just complaining at a high level. There seems to be space, but/and you somehow cram everything into the NE corner. However, I also see that there are “only” 666 sqm available. What are the dimensions of the plot? Assume that the house layout can still fundamentally change. I find your templates good. But, for example, I would also calculate 3 x 7 for the trailer, since it also needs to be parked. It can then, for example, stand on gravel and be shielded with a hedge around it or towards the garden, but quite far forward on the property. Give the dimensions of the property, I have an idea. How much edge development is allowed?
 

WilderSueden

2021-01-26 23:23:40
  • #4
The property dimensions are something that caught our attention yesterday. The plan is theoretically supposed to be 1:100 and the house fits, but the plot only measures 23x27 cm. So quite a bit is missing if this is supposed to represent 700 sqm. I already wrote an email to the planner about this yesterday. I suspect he took it from the drawing in the development plan. 25x28 m = 700 sqm would fit pretty much exactly, plus a little extra for the little corner at the street. Possibly something has been deducted at the boundary, but the lines for the building area actually lie directly on the property border.

Boundary development is not separately limited, so the usual 15 m total (2 neighbors) in Baden-Württemberg, 9 m for one neighbor.
The trailer measures almost exactly 6.20*2 m, although the 2 m only apply at the wheel arches. Otherwise it’s a good 1.50 m.


Maybe I’m spoiled since I grew up on a 1000 sqm plot, but a garden should actually be a garden. We didn’t find putting the house right in the middle with 5 m on all sides ideal. After all, as much garden as possible should be left over. That’s why everything is a bit pushed into one corner.
 

Würfel*

2021-01-27 11:32:46
  • #5
In BW you have to have 3 m distance between garage and street, right? It looks tighter at your place, but I don’t know whether the middle counts or the corner that is closest. In a 3 x 6 m garage you can just about fit a car, but not much more. I would probably give up the garage and build a double carport instead. For that, a spacious garden house.

About the garden house in the south + prefabricated garage + attached shorter/narrower carport: This could look messy and cluttered due to the fragmentation and the many different styles.

I would put the double carport in the place of the garage, trailer behind it and the garden house as boundary construction at the back in the northeast corner, but about 5 x 3 meters or so. It could be flush with the utility room. Then the house can remain as far as possible in the northeast corner. Would the missing “circuit” on the property be a problem?

Alternatively, the garden house in the northwest corner, nicely shielding the northern neighbor, who will align his house and garden directly to the south – with a view to your property. However, pipes and paths would be long then. You have to weigh that up. Bicycles can also be kept under the carport in summer.
 

motorradsilke

2021-01-27 11:46:28
  • #6
I would place the garden shed on the right somewhere between the house and the property boundary where it does not disturb me in front of the windows. However, I would not plan that now, but once the house is finished.
 

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