Renew surface water pipes

Are your considerations correct if you instead cover the entire wall?

Advantages:
- less dirt
- cheaper
- faster

A few slots are quickly made and plastered again. Sure, that creates dirt, but obviously you don't live there yet, and a thorough cleaning has to be done anyway before moving in. And that it should be cheaper to mill two slots instead of covering a wall surprises me.

And that it is supposed to be cheaper to mill two slots instead of covering a wall surprises me.

Well, I’m not just talking about milling two slots. But that’s why I started the topic here. We are beginners and basically don’t have much knowledge yet.

But often it is said that the renovation dismantling also costs a lot of effort, debris removal… especially compared to new construction. But if you now consider the current old wall as the "shell wall," all the dismantling falls away…

Maybe especially if you think towards interior insulation. But before we actually implement that thought process, we will talk to someone professional. But maybe the idea will also fall apart here because we are overlooking something obvious…

We also had the new pipes installed on the surface and then covered with drywall partitions. If done well, even very heavy tiles measuring 100x30 cm will hold on it. I don't consider the loss of space relevant in our bathroom. We extended the walls up to 1.25 cm in height so that we have a proper shelf.

Disadvantages:
- the room is not fully utilized and becomes smaller
- for the next generation it’s probably double the work…

Advantages:
- less dirt
- cheaper
- faster

Is that really the case? Cheaper to hide the new pipes behind a drywall partition – what does that cost and how complex is it? The pipes also have to go somehow through walls and ceilings if they are to be replaced. Ever patched and sanded drywall?

I have done quite a few renovations, but generally hiding all pipes new on the surface and behind a drywall partition is nonsense.

I would always go for flush-mounted if it is even remotely possible. Loss of space, boxings, ruined aesthetics... there are many reasons against it, but none in favor.

Die Wände haben wir bis 1,25cm Höhe gezogen, sodass wir eine vernünftige Ablage haben.

My walls are deliberately without a ledge so that neither grime is stored there nor anything needs to be cleaned. Tiled halfway up, painted above, but executed flush. There is no dust edge.

Is that really the case? Cheaper to hide the new lines behind a cladding - what does that cost and how labor-intensive is it? The lines also have to somehow go through walls and ceilings if they are to be new. Ever done drywall puttying and sanding?

I've done quite a few renovations, but generally hiding all the lines new on the surface and under a cladding is nonsense.

Yes, done it several times, but never paid for it. That's why I asked if it's nonsense, what we're figuring out.

So I found it much less effort to do the lines behind a casing than to expose the lines and then putty and sand again, and plaster comes on both anyway. But I have no idea how it is for a whole house, let alone the prices. I was always just a helper