Relocation of a 60s bathroom to a new room, 12 sqm floor plan

6. Once again about this partition wall: It looks nice if the partition wall does not extend all the way to the ceiling. A height of 2.20 is completely sufficient so that nothing splashes over it. This gives the rather small room an additional optical lightness. 7. We have found that a "Night-Light" made of two low-mounted recessed spotlights, set to a gentle yellow-orange light and operated by their own light switch (can also be done with a motion detector), works well. Anyone who needs to go to the toilet at night can then leave the "wake-up light" of the bathroom off and still find their way safely. 8. A wall inlet for the water in the area of the pre-wall in the shower is a visual treat. However, it turns out that the many writers here, who warned of the more complicated cleaning, were right. I would still do it this way again. 9. To protect the head when bathing with an open window, I would build a small device that allows the window sash, which opens towards the bathtub, to be locked securely in place. Sometimes it is such little things that make a bathroom special and especially usable.

I understood that it refers to the new bathroom.

Yes, that is correct. We would convert the existing bathroom into a dressing room. The two designs were ideas for the new bathroom in a new room.
The plumber said it would probably be possible to connect the wastewater pipe to the pipe in the laundry room floor when breaking through the ceiling in the basement. How feasible this actually is will be clarified once a plan is available.

Do you want to move the door? Or is it already no longer there as originally planned?

It is still drawn incorrectly in the floor plan (from the 60s). During a renovation about 10 years ago, it was moved. The measurements in the sketch are correct.

6. Once again about this partition wall: It looks nice visually if the partition wall does not extend all the way up to the ceiling. A height of 2.20 is completely sufficient so that nothing splashes above it. This gives the rather small room an additional optical lightness. 7. For us, a "night light" made of two floor-level recessed spotlights, which are set to a soft yellow-orange light and operated via their own light switch (this also works with a motion detector), has proven itself. If you need to go to the toilet at night, you can leave out the "wake-up light" of the bathroom and still safely find your way. 8. A wall recess for the water in the area of the pre-wall in the shower is a visual treat. However, it turns out that the many writers here who criticized the more complicated cleaning were right. I would still do it that way again. 9. To protect your head when bathing with an open window, I would build a small device in which the window sash, which opens towards the bathtub, can be securely locked in place. Sometimes it is these little details that make a bathroom special and particularly usable.

Wow, thank you very much, I’ll gladly take that on board.

Aside from the classic washbasin cabinets, the idea of simply installing a surface with a countertop washbasin hadn’t occurred to me yet. Makes sense and is probably cheaper too. :) That also means you’re a bit freer later when choosing the cabinet. Setting the pre-walls a bit lower also seems sensible to me. Thanks :)

I also quite like the idea of the integrated mirror on the pre-wall. Do you have any experience with how this is when, for example, the shower is illuminated? I suppose the mirror effect in the one-way mirrors is somewhat lost then, right? Also nice that we can install the glass pane flush either towards the shower or towards the wash area. That way there’s still some space for toothbrushes, etc.

We wanted to retrofit a KNX and Dali bus in the house. In that case, we could also control a night light well via the motion detector on the ceiling. The floor-level nightlight could perhaps also be installed as an LED strip under the bathroom cabinet, which would save us some effort in integration.

Do you recommend planning the shower somewhat shorter than 160? Or running the washbasin across the full width, from the wall to the end of the shower?

Do you recommend planning the shower a little shorter than 160? Or rather to have the washbasin run the entire width, from the wall to the end of the shower?

I would plan the shower to be at least 150 long, otherwise water might splash out. I wouldn’t plan the washbasin up to the end of the shower, otherwise the passage would become too narrow. We have 120, which is completely sufficient for one sink.

As a family with a child (5 years old), you often sit together in the bathtub, so a large bathtub was important to us.

Well..... that will probably change very soon, and for that purpose, I think the focus is a bit too strong. The shape of the bathtub is, of course, a matter of taste, but it probably brings you more disadvantages than advantages. We also actually chose a slightly bigger tub than before, although the previous one was already comfortable. My wife now says that sometimes she almost feels lost in it and would immediately take the previous model back. I also believe that the furnishings should have a more distinct focus, for example, where do you hang your large towel when you go for a shower or afterward? Your bathroom will not look more or less beautiful depending on the bathtub’s shape or size.

Simply installing a surface with a countertop basin instead of classic washbasin cabinets hadn’t occurred to me yet. Makes sense and is probably cheaper. :)

We have found 4cm multiplex boards to work well, then painted them and placed them on stylish metal legs; you can also fix them to the wall. Add a wall outlet (we don’t have one) and this part already looks classy. Underneath the boards, we each hung a wide vanity cabinet; I think IKEA has great options for this and the price/quality ratio is excellent. 13 sqm is not exactly little space for a bathroom, and it also includes important storage, shelving, hanging, and decoration options. You can always find a suitable tub later. I would also pay attention to the riser pipe for the shower in the wall and a nice view when lying in the tub. We probably slipped into a bit of decadence here, and I installed a stylish TV "The Frame" on the wall for my wife; she likes to lie there for what feels like 3 hours. I would maybe relocate a shared bathing experience rather outside into a whirlpool; the 5-year-old will still use it when he’s 12 and 22, and you can enjoy it together for years to come, at least that’s my idea about it.