Planning controlled residential ventilation via local heating / sanitary company

  • Erstellt am 2022-05-03 21:31:35

i_b_n_a_n

2022-05-19 16:57:26
  • #1
Hello, I have a central Maico controlled residential ventilation system without an enthalpy exchanger (forgot to order it directly). I have been living there since September 2021, never below 42% humidity, current values are between just over 50% and nearly 60%. The controlled residential ventilation is inaudible because I never activate the "party mode."

Due to my talent for killing houseplants by overwatering or underwatering, I only have three mini-cacti in the bathroom, no other greenery (except in the fridge). The only measure I take to get more humidity is to leave the bathroom door slightly open after showering.
 

Hausmax123

2022-05-20 08:35:50
  • #2
We are currently still in the floor plan design phase or shortly before submitting the building application. The controlled residential ventilation can thus still be planned. I will not have the system planned by the local company because, based on their statements (enthalpy exchanger doesn’t bring anything, etc.), I doubt their competence in this area and my concern is too great to end up with a loud, poorly planned controlled residential ventilation system. I don’t trust myself to plan it either, so I will now either have the planning done by one of the manufacturers (e.g., Zehnder or Maico) or find someone who specializes in controlled residential ventilation planning. For the installation, I would then have to find a local company again, which, as far as I understand, does not have such a high risk of errors... Has anyone had experience having the system planning and installation done by different companies?
 

11ant

2022-05-20 12:35:06
  • #3
So you want a controlled residential ventilation system in a house where you don’t trust the builder to plan such a thing. For this purpose, a specialist planner with expertise in controlled residential ventilation is supposed to get involved in the mess of the builder-planned ceiling, and then the planner or a third party is supposed to carry out the installation. Whether you’ll still love yourself afterward, I’ll mark that with a question mark; at least you might be inclined to form a self-help group with (who, however, did not leave you a warning example here regarding controlled residential ventilation, but his range hood was apparently no walk in the park either) ;-)

Alright then (or not alright, but doable with lots of praying), let’s run through the story— to my memory (and except for kitchen and financing threads, I basically know all threads here since I joined and had looked back about a year at that time) unfortunately without any "role models" in this (and also in the green) forum:

So let’s start from the ceiling of the previous planning. The controlled residential ventilation ducts don’t weigh much, so the ceiling won’t have to be structurally reinforced specifically for that. In the worst case, the floor construction above the ceiling might become thicker, which would also affect the staircase—but only linearly, since it would be the same on both floors, keeping the story height as the distance from the top edge of the finished floor on the ground floor to the top edge of the finished floor on the upper floor the same—the staircase would then just have to be "set" higher accordingly. The previously not planned controlled residential ventilation could also have corresponding consequences for the underside of the ceiling. This effect might be minimized if, for example, it is coordinated with outlets for ceiling spots or access points. In any case, it should be very clear before ordering the ceiling and planning the reinforcement at which points the controlled residential ventilation planner foresees ceiling penetrations. And I would also warmly advise you to coordinate the installation of the controlled residential ventilation into the construction site process. If you make controlled residential ventilation a “the general contractor has nothing to do with this” trade, the measure will ultimately be a first-class self-flagellation!

Keep in mind: we are talking here about a loss of clear room height of only a few centimeters—so refrain from increasing the story height (unless the rooms would otherwise be too low according to your state building code), since this would mess up the staircase planning and with that possibly ruin the layout at critical points (classic example: distance between staircase exit and bathroom door frame).
 

Hausmax123

2022-05-23 20:09:58
  • #4
thank you for your suggestions. The controlled residential ventilation planning will be coordinated with the general contractor and the detailed planning will only be approved once the controlled residential ventilation planning is in place and ceiling penetrations and pipelines are planned. For the heating/sanitary trade, we have free choice of supplier anyway. The controlled residential ventilation planning is now supposed to be done by a specialist planner and the installation by the company that takes over the heating/sanitary trade. Let's see how that works. I have already read several times that some do the installation of the controlled residential ventilation as a self-performed work, so I assume that the heating/sanitary company (which also offers controlled residential ventilation) can also install a controlled residential ventilation planned by an external party...
 

Gecko1927

2022-05-25 12:21:23
  • #5


At that time, unfortunately, I did not receive any planning from the manufacturers of ventilation systems. Many heating installers have their controlled residential ventilation planned by the manufacturer, but they apparently do not want to work with private individuals. I personally consider planning and execution by two different companies for a small trade like controlled residential ventilation to be unfavorable. There is still a lot that can go wrong during execution, especially if the planning comes from a third party. Is there no possibility of finding a heating installer who participates in or commissions the planning?
 

Tolentino

2022-05-25 12:59:23
  • #6
The by now rather well-known IB Heckmann also does ventilation planning. However, back then I only needed calculation and diagram, don’t know if they would also do a layout plan...
 

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