New construction small single-family house in NRW

That's what we thought too ;)

But if you don't want to move all the soil with a wheelbarrow and a spade (which depending on how long the excavation sits is really hard labor to impossible), then you will have to bring in an excavator again.

Then there's the preparation of the garden soil so that it is level. Otherwise, you'll be hopping around on your lawn later.

Terrace? Paths? Possibly stairs??? We just got a staircase. Admittedly, we needed 10 steps to the front door because our property is slightly sloping, but that cost us another €4,000 :eek:

We estimate about €2,500 (wood) for the terrace, the double carport costs us €11,000, the garden shed comes to another €1,500. Excavation work for the carport and garden shed is now at €1,000.

Then we don’t have a fence yet, haven’t leveled the garden yet, and haven’t bought any grass seed either.

And believe me, the wishes get bigger when all the neighbors around have already finished their garden design :oops:

Oh yes, I know that, we also underestimated that item. Well, everything will just be finished next spring :-) And we don’t need a designer garden either.. but a little fence, a nice terrace.. and poof, the money is gone.

Hello,

So far I haven’t found a provider who didn’t want at least €5000 for the underfloor heating.

Sorry, I don’t want to be offensive – but if you only focus on the offer prices, then I’m not surprised. Take a look at this thread, especially the explanations from Doc:

If, as desired, there are carpets in the living room and the entire upper floor, then that gives me more problems than benefits.

Why should you have problems with carpets in combination with underfloor heating?

However, I do see the problems with a possible sale later.

Exactly.

You write €200,000 for 135m² floor area, i.e. €1666/m² living space for simple standard.
That seems a bit high to me, but if that’s the case, I guess I have to live with it.

My calculator shows €200,000 ./. 135 = €1,481.48. I don’t know how you get your calculation, but to reduce to pure living space, you also need usable area; built usable area ;)

Floor and wallpaper in EL €20,000 I find very much.
There will be 100m² floor and about 400m² wall.
I calculate €20/m² floor (carpets) and €15/m² wallpaper + paste.
That gets me to €8000 + some reserve.

You can certainly do it that way; however, I doubt that – with a material price of €20.00/sqm – you will enjoy the carpet for long. If you proceed as obviously planned, you will spend money again for carpet flooring in about 2 years at the latest. Then the question arises for me what is cheaper: buying and installing a high-quality material once or starting over every 2 years.

I consciously assume this amount – if you don’t need it, all the better; you have leeway for other nice things in life. But if you need this amount and haven’t accounted for it in your financing, the frustration at the end will be quite high, since refinancing today is no longer so easily possible; and if so, then under rather unpleasant conditions.

Acquaintances built a house of the same size in 2002 for €120,000 including incidental costs plus land.
I hope it doesn’t have to cost more than double now.

12 years – that’s worlds in housebuilding; as of 01/01/2015 house prices will increase btw by around 3-4%.

Of course, you can go to the colleagues Anhängerkupplung; there you will certainly find a single-family house for under TEUR 150 AND buy a basement for TEUR 9.9 ... as well as underfloor heating for TEUR 5, etc. Whether, however, you have made a happy choice with this equipment, you will (unfortunately only) find out upon resale; then it is usually too late.

If yes, then it’s settled; at €280K + land I’m at €370K here and that for a very simple house with just 120m².
For that you usually get a finished one here from the year 200x with 160m² + basement + double garage and 700m² plot instead of 400.

Then good luck!

Rhenish greetings

For the actual cost calculation of in-house work: the material price of the coverings alone is not enough. With carpet, a lot of waste must be accounted for with roll goods, plus baseboards and adhesive. Wall primer? For brushes, putty knives, and other tools and consumables, a few hundred euros add up! Better to plan generously and have some left over afterwards than it might become tight.

Thank you for the many responses.

Again regarding the financial situation: I am not concerned about security in terms of the loan amount to be able to pay for everything, but about the actual costs. For someone who wonders whether they need to take out a loan of €330k or €350k, it might look different; here I also advocate for "to be safe, €20k more." As already said, additional costs will not kill me if they do occur.

Why should you have problems with carpet in combination with underfloor heating?

Because of air gaps that hinder heat transfer. Special covering, since normal carpets don’t handle the heat. Fundamentally nonsensical, because carpet never feels cold in warm rooms.

With my calculator TEUR 200 ./. 135 = €1,481.48. I don’t know how you come to your calculation, but to reduce to the actual living area, you also need usable space; built-in usable space

I come from 135m² floor area to 120m² living area due to the sloping ceilings and the halving of the living area m² in the range of 1-2m ceiling height. Apart from the attic, no further usable space is necessary; I count the utility room as "living area" in that sense.

12 years – that's worlds in house building

I am increasingly realizing that as well. Unfortunately, that does not apply to salaries in Germany.

Regarding the outdoor area: These are things that grow over the years anyway and do not have to be finished immediately at move-in (fence already), which is why I do not include them here.