Negotiation strategy with the agent and the seller

Yes, it's really annoying, especially because they don't even take responsibility for anything

Yes, he will rather refrain. You think of this one purchase, he thinks of his business in the coming years/decades. He has already come towards you, maybe there is more possible. But anything over 50% would be a real surprise.

PS: I am the last person who would say that the broker honestly earned 18k with his "work", but that's just how it goes – at least for now, as long as the costs can simply be passed on to the buyer.

Of course, he will immediately shout no and act totally outraged. But I am the one who has nothing to lose in the whole matter.
He has to come out empty-handed for 6 months. Well then, fine by me. I give him my offer and ciao. He has a long time to ponder what he should do.

I will now exaggerate: He takes the pictures, creates the exposé, and posts everything on the [Immobilienbörsen]. Whether the listings are successful after 1 day or nothing happens for 6 months, it doesn't cost him any extra work. Occasionally a viewing and a few email contacts. And alongside these listings, he has 20-xxx others. So he has just as little to lose as you do.

Apparently, no one here really knows much about negotiation strategies. I don’t really either, but apparently more than some here. Even if I offer the broker 10,000 euros tomorrow instead of 13,900 euros, he will complain and initially not want to accept or only with a lot of fuss. People have mostly met in the middle since negotiations have existed. I tell him 3,000 euros, he maybe says 11,000 euros, and I tell him my final offer would be 4,000 euros and goodbye. He has a long time to think whether he comes away empty after 6 months or whether he still gets 4k or 5k or whatever....

I'll exaggerate now: He takes the pictures, creates the exposé, and posts everything on the real estate portals. Whether the listings are successful after 1 day or nothing happens for 6 months, it doesn't cost him any more work. Occasionally a viewing and a few email contacts. And he has 20-xxx others running in parallel from these listings. So he has just as little to lose as you.

But he did invest time in it. Many viewings, travel costs, and talking not counted. But fine by me.

Apparently no one here really knows anything about negotiation strategies. I don't really either, but apparently more than some here.

If you don't agree with you, then you have no clue?

Ah yes, okay. Well, have fun then.