Main Pipeline Plan - Wastewater Drainage and Elevation Planning

  • Erstellt am 2020-09-24 19:39:46

Tolentino

2020-09-24 19:39:46
  • #1
Hello dear forum members,

I have now received a preliminary draft of the execution planning. Everything will be adjusted again after the completion of the static calculations if necessary and then finalized. Until then, I have time to consider whether everything makes sense as it is.
You first see below a site plan (from the building application) and an excerpt from the draft of the basic pipeline plan by the construction manager.
Attention, the plans have different orientations, but I have reinserted the north arrows in each case.
In the basic pipeline plan, I have inserted the GFL as an orange rectangle.

As you can see, the draft provides that the wastewater pipes are to be combined and routed downward on the plan, i.e., to the rear neighboring property, so away from the street. I would then have to make one more change of direction.
The construction manager's argument was that the pipes should always be routed under the slab in the shortest possible way because you never get access there again. That makes sense. However, when I look at where else the pipes come down, that is actually not the average shortest way, is it? There are more drainage pipes that are closer to the GFL strip; only the drainage for the kitchen would be further away. Considering the then longer pipeline route of the main line and the additionally necessary change of direction, wouldn’t a routing to the right on the plan (in the basic pipeline plan) or upward on the site plan be more sensible?

The second topic is the height of the wastewater pipe. Here, the height of the penetration from the slab is set to about 70 cm (I still have to inquire in relation to which height – I assume slab, but top edge or bottom edge?). This is basically a standard height for wastewater pipes, but considering that the intended pipeline route goes over the GFL, which is also the shared driveway for my neighbor and me, i.e., a trafficked path, it is recommended to go deeper, according to what I have read, 150 cm. Should I inform the general contractor about this now, or is it possible to add another stage before the GFL?
Especially because the existing wastewater shaft (see western corner on the site plan) is to be used and a good distance of about 40 m must be covered until then, the question of the actually absolutely necessary height is interesting.
The wastewater shaft is about 1.8 m deep. So that roughly works out exactly, but only if I can start on the preferred side of the house. If I have to go around the house, I will arrive too deep at the wastewater shaft.

Do you have any ideas, suggestions, or comments?

Thanks and regards

Tolentino

 

Tolentino

2020-09-25 23:18:39
  • #2
No one has a clue here?
 

11ant

2020-09-26 00:10:49
  • #3
I lie, I claimed to get smart from the right drawing :-(
 

ypg

2020-09-26 02:18:01
  • #4
Is this a seek-and-find or a hidden object picture? I don't see any cable!
 

Tolentino

2020-09-27 08:52:00
  • #5
I will try to explain and attach the floor plan of the ground floor from the execution planning. Maybe it will become clearer this way.

It is mainly about the red circles. These are the penetrations through the floor slab for the wastewater. Under the floor slab, the wastewater pipes are supposed to be routed downwards according to the plan (in the base pipeline plan = to the right in the site plan) (this is indicated by the arrows with two short and one long line).

My question is whether this is really the shortest path on average or whether an installation under the floor slab to the right (in the base pipeline plan = upwards in the site plan), i.e. to the pipeline route, is just as good or actually better due to fewer changes of direction with the main wastewater pipe and less total distance...
 

11ant

2020-09-27 19:52:37
  • #6
The downpipe from the outlet in the utility room runs 28.12 m towards the GFL-strip (already strange enough), but not towards the sewage shaft ??? - I can’t make any sense of the drawings *head scratch* *dumb look*
 

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