M.Meßfehler
2019-01-24 21:13:41
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Hello everyone
I would appreciate an exchange and assessment of my problem.
We, a young couple expecting a child, want to build a new building on an existing property with an old structure in a municipality in Upper Bavaria.
We have come across the following:
The old structure is located on a approximately 450 sqm plot which originated from a property subdivision in 2006.
The plot was surveyed by the surveying office in 2006 and a boundary was drawn on the west side. The boundary runs along the west side of the old structure and further southwards to the street.
The building dates from around 1930 and has been extended over the years with annexes.
Around 1946, a carpenter’s workshop was added to the west side of the residential building along the entire width. The roof structure was then extended to include this annex.
Around 1960, another annex was built on the north side of the building up to the boundary of the neighboring property. Shortly thereafter, the building was extended by another annex on the north side, also adjacent to the neighboring boundary. A diligent carpenter. According to our plans, at this point there was a boundary development of 14.28 m.
In the 1970s, an easement for the setback area was agreed upon and registered with the northern neighboring property. All modifications and annexes are approved and the boundary development is “secured” on the north side of the building by the easement. The workshop has been “abandoned” and the rooms are used as storage and utility rooms.
Before the subdivision of the property in 2006, the then co-owner and current neighbor converted a workshop shed next to our current building into a residential house in the 1980s.
According to the submission plan of this residential house at that time, a part of the first annex of our residential building, the former workshop, was supposed to be partially demolished in order not to interfere with the required setback areas of the neighboring residential building.
The then joint owners, two brothers, apparently refrained from demolition since the building remains in its planned dimensions and, in my assessment, the neighbor (brother) built as planned.
In 2006 the subdivision of the joint ownership took place by the owners and we acquired the property. Since the subdivision there has existed a boundary development of 26.18 m to this day.
This brings me to the first questions. The permissible boundary development of 15 m for outbuildings according to BayBO (let’s assume these are outbuildings) appears to have been exceeded since the survey.
If there is an easement for the setback area on the north side of the building and this development is legal, what about the new boundary and the resulting boundary development? Is it unlawful in terms of building regulations?
The neighbor to the west built as planned at the time, but the partial demolition for the setbacks was not carried out. Even if the subdivision were reversed, the setback areas of the buildings would not be observed, how does this present itself?
I hope this was not too much for now and that you have an opinion on it.
Attached is a site plan with the theoretically planned demolition marked.
But maybe more on that later. The parcel number is 335/4
Regards
Martin

I would appreciate an exchange and assessment of my problem.
We, a young couple expecting a child, want to build a new building on an existing property with an old structure in a municipality in Upper Bavaria.
We have come across the following:
The old structure is located on a approximately 450 sqm plot which originated from a property subdivision in 2006.
The plot was surveyed by the surveying office in 2006 and a boundary was drawn on the west side. The boundary runs along the west side of the old structure and further southwards to the street.
The building dates from around 1930 and has been extended over the years with annexes.
Around 1946, a carpenter’s workshop was added to the west side of the residential building along the entire width. The roof structure was then extended to include this annex.
Around 1960, another annex was built on the north side of the building up to the boundary of the neighboring property. Shortly thereafter, the building was extended by another annex on the north side, also adjacent to the neighboring boundary. A diligent carpenter. According to our plans, at this point there was a boundary development of 14.28 m.
In the 1970s, an easement for the setback area was agreed upon and registered with the northern neighboring property. All modifications and annexes are approved and the boundary development is “secured” on the north side of the building by the easement. The workshop has been “abandoned” and the rooms are used as storage and utility rooms.
Before the subdivision of the property in 2006, the then co-owner and current neighbor converted a workshop shed next to our current building into a residential house in the 1980s.
According to the submission plan of this residential house at that time, a part of the first annex of our residential building, the former workshop, was supposed to be partially demolished in order not to interfere with the required setback areas of the neighboring residential building.
The then joint owners, two brothers, apparently refrained from demolition since the building remains in its planned dimensions and, in my assessment, the neighbor (brother) built as planned.
In 2006 the subdivision of the joint ownership took place by the owners and we acquired the property. Since the subdivision there has existed a boundary development of 26.18 m to this day.
This brings me to the first questions. The permissible boundary development of 15 m for outbuildings according to BayBO (let’s assume these are outbuildings) appears to have been exceeded since the survey.
If there is an easement for the setback area on the north side of the building and this development is legal, what about the new boundary and the resulting boundary development? Is it unlawful in terms of building regulations?
The neighbor to the west built as planned at the time, but the partial demolition for the setbacks was not carried out. Even if the subdivision were reversed, the setback areas of the buildings would not be observed, how does this present itself?
I hope this was not too much for now and that you have an opinion on it.
Attached is a site plan with the theoretically planned demolition marked.
But maybe more on that later. The parcel number is 335/4
Regards
Martin