Is meter removal or meter rental during vacancy legal? No!

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toxicmolotof

2018-02-12 20:34:24
  • #1
I did not read your very long post as a question, since you had solved your problem.

And no, basically we did not pay anything extra, since he was at the meter cupboard anyway and did other things which we paid for.

The craftsman simply removed the meter and deregistered it.
 

ypg

2018-02-12 22:07:59
  • #2


Grave robbers are those who answer very old posts in forums, although they have been inactive for years, were answered years ago, and therefore no longer have any value in being answered.

If necessary, one should not simply answer blindly in a forum, but rather read everything through and consider whether the post already exists or can no longer belong to the reply flow, e.g. due to the large time span -> look at the date.

That is called attentiveness and respect
 

Nostradamus

2018-02-13 00:03:23
  • #3
Your previous answer has nothing to do with my question, to put it briefly again, I have no desire to pay for the expansion of the ancient meter and to arrange an electrician myself. In my opinion, there is at least no legal basis for this in old contracts. This problem has not been solved so far. Good tips for this are therefore welcome. Otherwise, based on my experience, I do understand the frustration of the person who opened this topic. It may be that this topic was opened some time ago, but it is obviously still current and if you google it, you end up here. The way it happened for me is quite confusing for the "normal end consumer" and certainly not optimal.
 

toxicmolotof

2018-02-13 01:41:02
  • #4
It doesn't matter how old the meter is. There is a law which has already been mentioned here. Have you read the said [Par. 9] multiple times?

You want to get rid of something, so you will (have to) pay for it. That is how the legislator sees it. At least if this meter is located in [DE]. The legal basis seems to be given, without this being legal advice.
 

MayrCh

2018-02-13 08:27:15
  • #5
I read your question as follows: "I want to have my meter removed, but not pay for it." However, this is regulated by NAV §9. And usually also by your network connection contract. So in my opinion, it fits like a glove.



NAV, §1 Scope of application:
The regulation applies to all network connection agreements concluded after July 12, 2005, and is also applicable to all connection usage agreements that arose before it came into force.



NAV, §9 Cost reimbursement for creation and modification
The network operator is entitled to demand reimbursement from the connection user for the costs necessary for economically efficient operation for
1. the creation of the network connection,
2. the changes to the network connection required by a change or expansion of the customer installation or initiated by the connection user for other reasons.



Your basic supplier does not care about that for the time being. The meter belongs to the network or meter operator. Have you terminated your network connection contract with the network operator?
 

Nostradamus

2018-02-13 14:47:47
  • #6
Those were quite good tips.
The question then arises as to when necessary costs for economically efficient business management are given.
For an electricity meter that has generated money for almost four decades, there should be an amortization multiple, so that there is no longer any need to impose the expansion costs on the end consumer, as the economic efficiency is already fulfilled.

Furthermore, I wonder whether it is even necessary to remove the meter or if there are other effective options that do not incur costs, meaning one just needs to have the right phrase for it, assuming one knows it. The grid operator will no longer have any interest in an old electricity meter. Ultimately, I just don’t want to have a power connection for heating electricity anymore or be forced to have a contract with the basic supplier.

Moreover, the rights of end consumers have been significantly strengthened by European consumer directives. Therefore, I assume it should be sufficient to enable the network operator to collect their property, i.e., the electricity meter, and with that one has fulfilled one’s obligation. Everything else would then be the responsibility of the network operator. However, I am not certain. It could be that someone has already had experience with this and wants to share it or knows about this specific case.

Not everyone is lucky enough to have such a good craftsman who removes the electricity meter during the conversion and returns it or knows about it. Besides, not every electrician is probably authorized to do so. After all, this is someone else’s property.

I would therefore be very grateful for further tips or argumentative aids.
 

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