It was about whether you can build a 140sqm house for 180 without land with a lot of personal effort? That’s why I posted the prices as an example, so the OP can see how the individual trades break down and where he can save significantly with muscle power, expert help, etc. I’m well aware that if someone did that with Stuttgart prices, it would look different. But that doesn’t matter, it’s the ratios that count, right? He should be able to get the Ytong at the building materials store in Werweiswo at a similar price as here. Probably the mortar too, etc.... I still think the project is ambitious, as I called it much earlier. But with suitable building ground without much earthwork and good help, it’s not impossible. First encourage him; no one can do the calculations and decisions for him anyway. Don’t say right away, it won’t work, just because you can’t imagine it for yourself.
About Yvonne: No, I really don’t think others are doing everything wrong. But.... it easily gives the impression here in the forum that you don’t even bother unless it’s at least 400. Here it’s not the boondocks, but a seaside resort with hotels, promenade, etc. only: The land is already cheap for us locals at 115 per sqm. (So you take a bit more sqm than in the south) - But apparently in SH (and MVP) we build differently, more basic. I don’t know any newer house with a basement. I don’t know anyone here who buys roller shutters. Or even app-controlled home technology. Expensive fences are rather rare. Simple driveways topped with gravel are normal. The houses are smaller, ours is 13.5 by 10 as a bungalow. High knee walls, or town villas hardly exist. Many only build KFW 55 or very basic. Walk-in closets, pantries mostly don’t exist. Front doors are made of plastic, not aluminum. The building ground is usually unproblematic. There are slopes but moderate. All that adds up. - There is certainly no right or wrong here, only: do I want it or not? Someone from MVP posted here that his house now cost 257k with land... immediately a user reflexively said, well, that must be absolutely lowest standard. I think: so what - if that’s the case, they live in it and are happy. What more do you want?