Install photovoltaic power storage yes or no?

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-02 17:42:05

Tarnari

2020-12-03 19:10:16
  • #1
Just throwing it out there, I think it’s helpful to mention whether the € amounts per kWp are gross or net. Of course, you get the VAT back. But I can still imagine that some state it with and others without. This can lead to misunderstandings or make comparisons difficult.
 

knalltüte

2020-12-03 19:22:24
  • #2


1. Difference between a pure "south system" and a combined north/south system results in a surcharge for the north expansion and therefore a separate kWp price for the north. The inverter may only need to be sized larger, grounding only one cable, additional cabling effort lower, volume discount on modules etc.

2. Capping limit is avoided

3. Yield in the north (or east/west), albeit low, is generated when almost nothing comes from the south, so it is mostly used by oneself (base load)! Especially in the morning and evening. This brings the actual return from not purchased kWh (I am not talking about 7-8 cent feed-in tariffs, those are also okay).

4. The system does not vanish into thin air after 20 years!

Notes: The autonomy rate shown on offers is usually nonsense (only considered economically), every!! profitability calculation from a solar installer was dismantled within minutes and clearly proven to be calculated incorrectly.

Nevertheless, almost every photovoltaic system (without storage) pays for itself; forget the 20-year "lifetime" (see above) .... It would have to be ridiculously expensive otherwise.

Outside of these purely economic considerations, of course there are also people who install photovoltaics on the roof for entirely different reasons ... :p

And people, please don’t constantly confuse kWp, kWh, kW ... ;)
 

knalltüte

2020-12-03 19:35:26
  • #3

Currently, here in NRW at least, one can be happy if any company even agrees to make an offer. At the first offers I thought they wanted to make a fool out of me!
At the beginning of my photovoltaic search I thought differently (my mental limit for pure photovoltaics without battery and WB was 1000€ net per kWp). If I were fitter and didn’t make too much money with typing in rather little time, I would seriously install it myself. It’s not magic. All that’s needed is an electrician who connects everything.
I can gladly post my photovoltaic offer here after completion of the work. (But since we are building KfW40+ it’s not really relevant for most people since it includes a battery storage and 2 wall boxes)
 

nordanney

2020-12-03 20:08:00
  • #4

Currently, for a 10 kW system you will be around 1,150€ net. The wallbox (controllable) just cost 200€ including installation (in NRW thanks to subsidies). If the storage systems here were also properly subsidized, I would have gotten one as well.
 

Zaba12

2020-12-03 20:29:01
  • #5
Point 3 must have been told to you. In practice, that applies roughly from the end of April to the end of September (and the yield decreasing) for less than 2 hours, so basically when my south side no longer covers the base load at 7:30 p.m.

Outside of these months, the sun does not even reach around to the north side to generate a significant yield, because by then the sun has already long set.

Take a look at the site Sonnenverlauf.de and play around a bit with the months.
 

Bookstar

2020-12-03 20:57:12
  • #6
Since electricity somehow keeps getting cheaper with regular switching, photovoltaic systems only pay off after well over 15 years. This repeatedly leads me to discard the topic. Setting aside environmental concerns and long lifespan.
 

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