Ideas for dividing the upper floor, possibilities for improvement of the ground floor

  • Erstellt am 2016-10-12 17:17:09

hasa222

2016-10-12 17:17:09
  • #1
Hello dear forum community,
we have now been in the planning phase with our architect for quite some time and I think it might slowly be time to have a few other experts take a look at our current design. ;)

Development plan/restrictions:
Size of the plot: approx. 1200 sqm
Slope: slight (10%) towards SW
Development plan: §34 village center location

Requirements of the builders:
Classic style, gable roof, but no 4-sided "box" ;)
2 full floors with basement
Number of people, age: currently 3 (36, 34, 1) + x?
Office: family use, possibly later home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open kitchen, cooking island
Wood stove for the room atmosphere, primary heating via geothermal heat pump
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessarily

We actually already like our ground floor quite a bit, only the window layout in the living room could still be revised and a shower has to be added. The technology is completely housed in the basement.
Where we are unfortunately currently running out of ideas is in designing the upper floor.
What should be included:
- Bedroom
- Dressing room
- at least 2 children's rooms
- Bathroom with WC, possibly also an additional separate WC
- also desirable would be a passage Bedroom -> Dressing room -> Bathroom
Actually not so difficult, one would think :rolleyes:
But somehow we are already suffering too much from "tunnel vision" and simply cannot come up with a sensible solution!
What do you think? How would you divide up the upper floor?

Regards,
hasa222

 

ypg

2016-10-12 21:50:57
  • #2
Where is north then? Where is the street?

Regards
 

hasa222

2016-10-12 22:56:08
  • #3
Oops, sorry! I probably cut out a bit too much before uploading. :D I hope it's clearer now...
 

kbt09

2016-10-13 07:03:13
  • #4
I see a problem with the staircase.

Only at the third, or rather fourth step (due to wall thickness) is there head clearance. Here illustrated as an example with a straight staircase. And, when going down, you often bounce a little upwards.
 

matte

2016-10-13 07:40:33
  • #5
I also see a problem with the staircase, but primarily a design issue.

The house is not exactly small, but when I come in through the front door, I have to worry about accidentally hitting someone coming down the stairs with the door. I personally don’t like the entrance at all.

I would probably try to straighten the staircase somehow, which would push it 1 - 2 meters upwards on the plan. This would also make direct access to the kitchen possible. The zigzag from the car to the kitchen might annoy you after a few weeks with groceries – it would really bother me.

Of course, you would then have to think about access to the dining/living area, since the staircase shifts upwards on the plan, but I don’t see that as a big problem.

I tried to illustrate this a bit.

The exterior walls are as accurate as possible, based on the measurements from your plan. I moved the starting point of the staircase about 1.70 meters away from the bottom wall on the plan, leaving 60 cm for the kitchen units/wardrobe and 1.10 meters for the passage and door to the stairs. I pushed the green wall slightly upwards on the plan so that there is still access to the dining/living area.

I deliberately left out the wardrobe niche in the hallway because I think it makes the space very narrow. Although a hallway with 22 sqm is already quite something, the house's floor area also allows for that. My cousin, by the way, has a foosball table in his hallway, which I think is great ;)

This also has the advantage that the door to the guest room can be moved further to the right on the plan, so there is space for a cabinet behind the door, and you don’t immediately walk into it when opening the door.

I would probably also move the red-marked exterior wall upwards on the plan so that it aligns with the green wall, as in your plan.

It might also be worth considering rotating the staircase 180°, but you would have to make a plan for the upper floor for that.
 

kbt09

2016-10-13 08:03:05
  • #6
The staircase is here:

definitely a problem because of the clearance height. Because the upper floor is smaller and is based on the dashed line. Which is why there is headroom only above the 4th step. Aside from that, I agree .. with the front door you fall onto the staircase ;)

In the redesign by , which I basically like at first, the front door is very squeezed into the corner so that the wardrobe space is created.
The total 659 cm for wardrobe, clearance area, staircase and living room entrance (staircase descent to the basement) result in:
659 - 170 for the entrance area - 110 for the living room passage = 379 cm ..Okay, with floor height (different from room height) 280 cm ..
 

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