Floor plan optimization single-family house: gable entrance and basement

  • Erstellt am 2025-01-02 19:27:05

ypg

2025-01-03 17:32:30
  • #1
I did not claim that either. I said nothing different. Please quote if you want to explain something to him.
 

K a t j a

2025-01-03 20:46:59
  • #2
I am usually against pointless basement building. But except for this one:


this here is actually not a bad list of reasons for needing a basement:



Your list is quite convincing at first glance, but you should perhaps still think about the following: Almost everything you list can just as well be placed above ground. There is no real reason to put these things underground, since the rooms down there are not much cheaper if they are to function as living space. So if heating, electricity, floors, doors, internet, telephone, water, sewage – all that stuff – has to go there too, you don’t save anything. But of course, you lose natural light.

Yes, you might save a bit in the basement if you only install the bare minimum and very inexpensive materials there. But the extra earthworks probably consume that again. In the end, it might be a zero-sum game with the disadvantage of dark rooms.

However, the enormous space requirement is questionable, which leads me much more back to the budget question.
 

ypg

2025-01-03 22:05:06
  • #3

You have really made some good considerations in parts. Many want one thing or another just because others have it or they have read about it, without really knowing the use or having the need.


But not a good one either.

I have to disagree with you: most things can be better stored above ground, if storage can be called that at all.

Horse equipment like saddles and such can be dirty, smelly, but also heavy. They need to be transported, preferably stored with air circulation.
Tires can be bulky. You can find another place for them than having to haul them up and down the stairs 4 times per set, so 8 times during tire changes.
Sports equipment and musical instruments are too expensive to only store. For use or storage, a utility basement is not suitable.
Recycling waste is not worth the physical effort to store it.

Party basement, wellness room, you have to be able to afford that as well. You want the jack-of-all-trades basement for all eventualities for €480,000. Sorry... but that's a bit naive.

However, I am also a bit shocked: These are all wishes that were built into houses in the 1980s when something was still secretly... uh, built underground. The times when basements were commonly built for storage and parties, however one sweats during the parties, are long gone.
It should be noted that here a living basement is to be mixed with a utility basement. Because you cannot officially have an office where you stay in a utility basement as an office.

Basically, you also forget that a pitched roof house still has the attic room available for expansion*.
* But only if you include it as expandable. Otherwise, nowadays structural calculations are saved on, so the attic space can only be used as storage.

Lower Saxony is still cheaper in many regions than the rest of the country. But a country house villa with all the space trimmings is not feasible here either.
Before constantly agonizing over finances here, I would recommend reading through some threads on house financing, planning, and construction costs.

And don't despair: a piano can be better placed in the dining room, the garden is better than any piece of training equipment, and with good bathroom planning, a small sauna can be retrofitted there. Parties are celebrated in the carport or on the terrace or in the living area - and that is all more living comfort than the dusty rooms your parents still had.
 

Flowerstone

2025-01-07 12:22:45
  • #4
Hi everyone,

thanks again for the good impulses and questions. It gave us a lot to think about and reflect on. Especially regarding the topic of the basement.

Also, the idea of the bedroom for seniors on the ground floor is an unnecessary restriction, you are definitely right about that.

We wish for about 120-140cm knee wall, I think you can already do quite a lot with that in the upper floor.

I can't contribute anything reliable on the topic of heights. So far, the neighbors have only a shell construction, they are building what looks like a "normal gable roof house" from my layman perspective. We will simply get advice there.

The tip to look again at catalog floor plans was good. We found two more that actually come very close to our wishes. We will now have a few talks and see what comes out of it.

Best regards
 

Vrumfondel

2025-01-07 12:58:16
  • #5


A clear case of "maybe, but not necessarily" - the piano stays in the room, and the drum set should always be ready to play. But it already starts here: the dedicated drummer can own different sets of cymbals/snares/toms which are either regularly swapped or simply "owned." Among electric guitarists and bassists, it is also quite common to have a larger "fleet" that cannot all be kept in the practice room. Whether this amount is necessary, Marie Kondo and Joe Bonamassa would give very different answers – but the statement "musical instruments should not be stored in the basement" often misses the reality of life in this form ;-)
 

hanghaus2023

2025-01-07 12:58:55
  • #6
Would you like to show us the floor plans here?
 

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